Fracking U turn

[Brewnaldo]

I have posted this video before it may help you decide what would work for you -

Fwiw, I got that system (givenergy battery etc) plus panels installed in early July (I think).

Up until this point, about 20% or possibly less of my power has come from the grid, and I have exported significantly more than I have imported.

That's the summer months obviously. Winter will even the score somewhat, but since il never be importing 100% of my use and can take 8.2kW from cheap overnight rates, il never again be paying full whack.

Anyway for anyone interested there is a solar panels thread in the snug.

 

[Chippy_Tea]

Anyway for anyone interested there is a solar panels thread in the snug.

It's here -

https://www.thehomebrewforum.co.uk/threads/solar-panels.97785/

 

[Polcho]

Really interesting video.

 

[Cheshire Cat]

Off topic this is a Fracking thread not solar panels.

 

[Chippy_Tea]

Off topic this is a Fracking thread not solar panels.

It's the snug many topics go off topic, as it's still about energy it's not far off topic we have all seen worse.

 

[lancon]

More importantly fracking produces a gas that is not good for the climate. Much cheaper, safer and easier to use renewables.

 

[foxy]

More importantly fracking produces a gas that is not good for the climate. Much cheaper, safer and easier to use renewables.

Exactly, as I have said it is an absolute no brainer not to install solar panels. Incentive or not. The energy price is not going to go down which ever party is in charge, it will continue to rise.

 

[Chippy_Tea]

Exactly, as I have said it is an absolute no brainer not to install solar panels.

I agree but but the majority of those who are going to suffer this winter are the low paid how can they get out of the rut by installing solar panels maybe the government should give everyone free panels which are paid for by the extra electricity you give back. (For want of a better explanation)

 

[Agentgonzo]

I agree but but the majority of those who are going to suffer this winter are the low paid how can they get out of the rut by installing solar panels maybe the government should give everyone free panels which are paid for by the extra electricity you give back. (For want of a better explanation)

Totally agree. Given all the drives for renewable energy etc and the abundance of rooftops, there should be a policy to encourage solar panel installation countrywide. The feed in tariff was a good idea and incentivised this, but it's been all-but abolished. Put it back, and you'll see a huge flurry of home conversions putting free energy into the grid. There should be building regs that all new office blocks over a certain size should be topped with solar panels rather than just concrete. It could then be used for all those energy-intensive air con units that offices use 24/7

 

[foxy]

I agree but but the majority of those who are going to suffer this winter are the low paid how can they get out of the rut by installing solar panels maybe the government should give everyone free panels which are paid for by the extra electricity you give back. (For want of a better explanation)

As has been mentioned in the other thread, community batteries which are being used here in Australia. Those with solar panels store their excess energy in large community batteries which the community in that are can draw from whether they have panels or not.

 

[foxy]

Totally agree. Given all the drives for renewable energy etc and the abundance of rooftops, there should be a policy to encourage solar panel installation countrywide. The feed in tariff was a good idea and incentivised this, but it's been all-but abolished. Put it back, and you'll see a huge flurry of home conversions putting free energy into the grid. There should be building regs that all new office blocks over a certain size should be topped with solar panels rather than just concrete. It could then be used for all those energy-intensive air con units that offices use 24/7

As I have explained before, FiT is paid for by those who don't have solar. Sure energy companies can offer 60p FiT but the money has to come from somewhere. Where does it come from? From the ones who don't have solar panels, they are the ones paying for the FiT through their energy price.

 

[Agentgonzo]

As I have explained before, FiT is paid for by those who don't have solar. Sure energy companies can offer 60p FiT but the money has to come from somewhere. Where does it come from? From the ones who don't have solar panels, they are the ones paying for the FiT through their energy price.

Not in the UK. It comes from the magic money tree. The money doesn't need to "come from somewhere" anymore.

 

[foxy]

Not in the UK. It comes from the magic money tree. The money doesn't need to "come from somewhere" anymore.

It is built into the cost of the energy no matter what country. Energy companies, much like the government are not going to put money into FiT. If you don't have solar and your neighbour does and he is getting FiT then he should write and thank you. It is you who is paying for it.

 

[lancon]

FiT ( or Smart Export Guarantee I think) is minimal in UK now, EDF 1.5p/kWh, the big returns are only in the early contracts. Onshore wind should be looked at, but the tories don't want it as it doesn't pay the oil company.