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Who do you think will win (not who do you want to win)

  • England will win

  • Spain will win

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Brew_DD2 said:
The second goal from Watkins was a beauty, but nobody will convince me that this England side has been anything other than bang-average. And whilst you can only beat what is in front of you, they are yet to face a good side.

I've always respected Kane as a player, but has the diving and playacting always been a big part of his game? I've not really watched enough of him to comment on it, but I was shocked by the frequency of his attempts to con the referee. It wasn't that long ago that our pundits would scream bloody murder when a foreign player behaved like that, and decried that it had been brought into our game. How times have changed.
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Kane has made a living out of it. Mo Salah got slaughtered for it. England captain is untouchable
 
Benfleet Brewery said:
Unfortunately that how the game has become. If you are not going to adopt this “Sh*thousing” yourselves you just become a victim of it. I hate it all. 22 players claiming the throw in is there’s, falling over and getting a free kick whenever they feel a touch, getting a touch on the shoulder and going down holding their face, time wasting etc etc, but it will carry on for as long as refs continue to be fooled by it and accept it all.
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Absolutely - in the previous Euros England lost in the final to a bang average Italian side that were the king sh**housers of the tournament.
 
I thought Kane was decent, but he was basically playing as a no.8. England have been so poor this tournament, but were better against the best team they've faced which bodes well (for Spain). Southgate sets up like he's managing Fulham or Burnley... to play for a point and maybe steal the game. This is a good side being under utilised.

I still don't understand Bellingham as a no.10. Lad's a driving no.8 especially when England have one of the world's best no.10's shifted to the left wing. Surely you play Rice at 6, Bellingham at 8 and Foden at 10!? It's not fair on Mainoo who has been excellent but that central 3 absolutely the way to go in my eyes with two defined wingers putting crosses into Kane.
 
Chippy_Tea said:
I think lady luck has had far more to do with us getting to the final than Southgates tactics we were lucky again last night the second goal could have easily not gone in. I cannot see us winning it but will be happy when you all tell me I was taking out of my **** if do ;)
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It's tournament football. Even the best teams need some luck.

In 2016 Portugal got a real fortunate draw through the knockout stages, squeaked their way to wins in the R16 and QF, got dominated by France in the final. France somehow couldn't get the ball in the net and Portugal ran out winners in extra time.

Likewise in 2012 Spain were great apart from in the semi final against Portugal who had plenty of chances to win it. But they got to penalties and won it there.

In 2004 Greece were in with a whisker of going out at the group stage then 1-0'd their way to the trophy.

My favourite example though is 1992. Denmark didn't even qualify for the tournament, and were brought in as a replacement for Yugoslavia as they had been sanctioned by the UN.
 
Still don't get the it wasn't a pen and booking.
A late challenge full on studs?
Anywhere else on the pitch and nobody would be complaining.

You could argue Kane had already missed with the shot but still late and aggressive.
As for Gary Neville an hour earlier he was discussion how Van Basten had to retire early cause "they weren't protected as well back in the day"
 
You could argue that they were both going for the same ball at the same time it was not a challenge on Kane but going for the ball
 
The Baron said:
You could argue that they were both going for the same ball at the same time it was not a challenge on Kane but going for the ball
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It was a 50-50 challenge. Both entitled to go for it IMO.
HOWEVER. If it was a foul then you could argue it should have been a red because he was the last man.
 
chrissyr63 said:
Still don't get the it wasn't a pen and booking.
A late challenge full on studs?
Anywhere else on the pitch and nobody would be complaining.

You could argue Kane had already missed with the shot but still late and aggressive.
As for Gary Neville an hour earlier he was discussion how Van Basten had to retire early cause "they weren't protected as well back in the day"
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Dumfries is sticking a leg out to block the ball and Kane catches the bottom of Dumfries' boot on his follow through. I'd be equally dumbfounded if it was anywhere else on the pitch.
 
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Brew_DD2 said:
Dumfries is sticking a leg out to block the ball and Kane catches the button of Dumfries' boot on his follow through. I'd be equally dumbfounded if it was anywhere else on the pitch.
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Dumfries is moving forward , studs up, doesn't touch the ball and follows through Kanes foot.
 
ClownPrince said:
HOWEVER. If it was a foul then you could argue it should have been a red because he was the last man.
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I think for it to be a red you have to have prevented a clear goal scoring opportunity. At the time of this foul, if it was one, the opportunity had gone coz he’d already skied it over the bar!
 
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