Electric cars.

[MashBag]

But the instant throttle response is something ICE can only dream about.

Dual clutch?

 

[MashBag]

Has anyone considered history might see EV car critics as dinosaurs who destroyed the earth by continuing to be climate deniers and caused a global catastrophe.

Nah. its a bit of a stretch to assume all EV car critics are climate deniers.

 

[JockyBrewer]

I look at it the same as not chucking litter on the ground.

It’s easier for me to do, and it won’t end the world if I did.

But I’d also like to think I’m not leaving s*** everywhere for someone else to clear up.

 

[old dog new tricks]

Dual clutch?

Have had dual clutch it's quick but ICE still needs to spool up to get to maximum torque EVs have that instantly for on and off throttle driving in twisty roads etc the power delivery is instant in sports mode to a lever I have not encountered in even Very Fast ICE in my opinion at least

 

[MashBag]

That makes sense, only ever driven hybrids and then not really floored them

 

[GhostDoggyWoofWoof]

They accelerate as quicky backwards hence the cracked bumber in my new Eletre as I scooted out of the drive and hot the lamppost in the middle of the road. First prang in 30 years. Love the car but it's too heavy for my Waitrose car park.. LOL Electric Mini Cooper coming next month which will be easier around town. I love ICE cars but some electrics are fantastic fun.

 

[Alastair70]

I had a test drive in an Eletre and was really impressed. Lovely car, lovely driving experience.

 

[GhostDoggyWoofWoof]

It has a few foibles and not having heated rear seats in a £105k car is ridiculous. Needs a rear wiper too, I've had to coat rear screen so I can see out in rain. But vert comfortable and very fast. And only £610 a month!

 

[Nicks90]

£610 a month? That's decent.

Can I ask what the down payment and mileage is on that deal?

"Asking for a friend" (just in case my wife reads this)

 

[GhostDoggyWoofWoof]

It was 9 months up front, 36 months, 5k mileage. Contract hire. Was only available for a few weeks. Lotus were desperate to get some cars on the road. It doesn't cover the interest on £105k let alone depreciation.

 

[Rodcx500z]

£610 a month for a car jeez the world really has gone t-ts up

 

[Nicks90]

£610 a month for a car jeez the world really has gone t-ts up

Really?
Now go see how much a £25grand loan is over 5 years, for a moderately specc'd 3 year old family saloon or small SUV crossover.
Add a hundred per month on the repayment and you have a 100k brand new luxury car on lease.

Tell me which is better

 

[AlBrew]

Really?
Now go see how much a £25grand loan is over 5 years, for a moderately specc'd 3 year old family saloon or small SUV crossover.
Add a hundred per month on the repayment and you have a 100k brand new luxury car on lease.

Tell me which is better

OK if the mileage limitations work for you, 5k (14 miles a day) wouldn't work for me.

When I looked at leasing the costs ballooned quickly when you look at 15-20k miles a year, was near a grand for a car half the price of the Lotus.

Bought instead, if I keep it for 10 years it'll be almost paid for with 40ppm work milage, would have cost me £120k leasing over the same period. It might have a small resale/tradein value too and I can scratch it and stain the seats all I want.

Would have preferred the Lotus of course

 

[Chippy_Tea]

Chancellor Rachel Reeves announced at the end of October that drivers of new petrol, diesel and hybrid vehicles would be hit with higher first-year tax rates. The move aims to incentivise consumers to opt for electric vehicles and widen the gap between 'higher polluting' vehicles and EVs

The first-year tax figure is determined based on the amount of carbon dioxide the vehicle emits.

Electric vehicle (EV) drivers currently enjoy no Vehicle Excise Duty (VED) costs, but things are about to change. From April, EV owners will have to fork out a modest £10 for their first year's VED, a recently frozen rate.

Owners of petrol, diesel, and hybrid vehicles, meanwhile, are preparing for a dramatic increase with rates expected to double. A Treasury spokesperson told Car Dealer Magazine that conventional cars' VED rates might just double come 2025.

For instance, if you're eyeing up a new Ford Puma, by April 2025, you could be shelling out £440 in the first-year VED instead of today's £220. Luxury vehicle enthusiasts looking at options like a Range Rover will face a drastic jump from a £2,745 fee right up to a staggering £5,490.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/money/full-list-60-cars-24-34752938

 

[Leon103]

Really?
Now go see how much a £25grand loan is over 5 years, for a moderately specc'd 3 year old family saloon or small SUV crossover.
Add a hundred per month on the repayment and you have a 100k brand new luxury car on lease.

Tell me which is better

£25k deposit