Sort of. Many of their most popular chargers still appear to be Tesla only.
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Just a few articles I quickly found on internet - lots of complaints that only Tesla can advice what charging point you should go to, others may end up in a long queue… Don’t know if this changed, but, in my case as a consultant, being able to charge quickly on a motorway or another city is quite important
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamesm...e-long-distance-in-an-ev-and-it-was-terrible/
https://inews.co.uk/inews-lifestyle...6g3StIIWUih0wcB7O-6gTzdr1HrnT_YLqBJqnUWO0j6In
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/cars/hybrid-electric-cars/electric-car-mileage-challenge/
Yes, but do they advise you how much queue is likely to be there when you arrive to charge? If an average car takes, let’s say 30 minutes to charge, and you have two cars in frond of you, then it means you have to wait for you turn 30 minutes (if the charging car is leaving immediately) and then charge for 30 minutes, so you just have to spend 1 hour as a minimum, maybe 1.5 hours
Pretty much every app for providers tells you the status of chargers. Also the independent ones like ChargeFinder, PlugShare and ABRP.
There's no reason to have to queue, there's always another option nearby and the means to check on the road.
Edit: Like this:
I will say that looking at an upcoming drive from London to Manchester, the number of charging points at motorway services is pathetic given the number of cars going through them. Many places only have 3 chargers, usually with a pile of complaints on Google maps that the chargers are slow or broken.
If you have a Tesla it's not so bad, as they seem to have 5-6x the number of charging points at services on that route, but 80% of them are Tesla only. On the continent it appears to be the other way around - 80%+ of Tesla chargers are now CCS compatible.
Anyway, the car should be able to do the full distance on a single charge and I have also found a few chargers not far off the motorway that could be used instead.
If you have a Tesla it's not so bad, as they seem to have 5-6x the number of charging points at services on that route, but 80% of them are Tesla only. On the continent it appears to be the other way around - 80%+ of Tesla chargers are now CCS compatible.
Anyway, the car should be able to do the full distance on a single charge and I have also found a few chargers not far off the motorway that could be used instead.
Thanks for the links, obviously there are going to be new BEV customer that love them and those that hate them unfortunately we rarely hear about the ones that love them but often hear about the experiences of those that don't because its news worthy, remember all the b******s spouted about BEV fires!
I will again say i could get along fine with one and would if i had a place to charge it having said that if i was using the car for work and driving several hundreds of miles a week i wouldn't touch one at the monument i am sure there are many people who do but for me an ICE would have to do until the charging infrastructure was fit for purpose.
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I've had an EV for over 18 months. I've driven through England. France, Spain, Netherlands etc often doing 400 miles in a day. In all that time, I have only had to queue once for a charger, and that was for no more than a minute. I have encountered vanishingly few broken chargers.
Most top ups take no longer than going to the loo and having a coffee and leg stretch.
I don't drive a Tesla.
Now stop that OFAP you should know better than posting facts in a EV thread 
Sounds great! I am planning getting myself Tesla, by the way. Not brand new though. And probably not in the next 2 years - I want a folding electric bike under 25 kg that can do 60 mph with at least 30 miles range, drive in my car to London, park the car and then ride on the bike around the city. And sleep in the car in comfort if I decide having rest
I read all those articles and want that part of my life back now. The first one was not at all negative, quite the opposite. The second could best be summarised as "I'm an ***** and I want the world to know it". Imagine thinking that charging a Jaguar iPace on a granny charger through an open window and across a pavement is a good idea or a sustainable one. Airhead doesn't come close.
The third one was pretty similar. A self-confessed noob who felt it beneath him to have to charge, let alone actually plan out a trip. And that trip at 100 miles, didn't even necessitate a charge, but he bullishly decided he was going to use what was clearly a restricted charger. And found it unavailable to him. Well D'uh.
Like @Old Fart At Play I've similarly only found a charger I wanted to use occupied once. I had to drive a whole 500m to another one. That's it. I've driven as much as 680km in one day without a single problem charging. Better still, I've done that charging in dead time. My best experience was driving 380km to a hotel where I could avail of free charging for as long as I stayed there. You won't get that with an ICE car.
The conclusion of the first article…
“So what was terrible about my journey? Absolutely nothing about the driving or charging experience. The Tesla Model Y was brilliant for the whole weekend, had plenty of space for occupants and luggage, and the range was spot on. There were zero issues with any of the charging locations I chose. They all worked, and I never had to wait. I’m just upset I’ve got nothing to moan about so I can get the same kind of attention as Giles Coren, Iain Dale and Rowan Atkinson. That’s really annoying.”
Thanks for saving us the time reading those articles i did consider it but thought better of it,
Nobody gets nothing for free, it will be added in the bill, i would bet those that use ice unknowingly pay it as well
In which case it's still free to me and the ICE drivers are the mugs subsidising it for me.Nobody gets nothing for free, it will be added in the bill, i would bet those that use ice unknowingly pay it as well
so you pay for it as no one gets anything for free everybody knows this, but you say it's still free to you, right say no moreIn which case it's still free to me and the ICE drivers are the mugs subsidising it for me.
Lol. Your logic is hilarious. Everyone pays the same price for the hotel, but I get my car charged at no extra cost. That's free, regardless of what pithy aphorism you use.so you pay for it as no one gets anything for free everybody knows this, but you say it's still free to you, right say no more
And several hotels that I use actually installed them specifically because the hotel industry sees an increase in the number of customers staying at hotels offering this service, because they can charge their car.
More customers, more profit. And when you look at the energy usage of a 50+ room hotel, paying for the leccy on 3 or 4 chargers is a tiny drop in their ocean
And to reinforce what a stupid reply you made, here's some numbers.
Say each charger costs £1000 to install. Over 1 year that's £3 per day
Say each charger gets used to fully charge a customer car with 50kw of leccy. At current prices that's £12.
So £15 per day
But you get an additional customer staying with you because you have a charger, that's 20% margin on the room, 50% margin on any food or drink they order and through ancillary revenue and upselling
More customers, more profit. And when you look at the energy usage of a 50+ room hotel, paying for the leccy on 3 or 4 chargers is a tiny drop in their ocean
And to reinforce what a stupid reply you made, here's some numbers.
Say each charger costs £1000 to install. Over 1 year that's £3 per day
Say each charger gets used to fully charge a customer car with 50kw of leccy. At current prices that's £12.
So £15 per day
But you get an additional customer staying with you because you have a charger, that's 20% margin on the room, 50% margin on any food or drink they order and through ancillary revenue and upselling
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Only a few of them are
This would apply if there was only one charger there. Most Tesla superchargers are in banks of a dozen or more. So, if you arrive and have two cars in front of you, even in a worse case scenario that every bay is going to be busy for 30 minutes, all three of you will get in after that time when all 12 cars leave.
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