Looking forward to hearing how you get on Jocky.
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Get yourself ABRP (A Better Route Planner). You can set all kinds of criteria in it for your trip, like normal starting SOC, target SOC for charging on the road (this to optimise charge speed) and other criteria like DC only or lowest charge rate chargers (eg no lower than 50kW) etc. Manufacturers usually recommend not charging to 100% except for the odd long journey. They usually recommend charging to 80 or 90% on a day to day basis to preserve battery life.
The Kona has a max charge rate of 77kW, so it's going to be close enough to 1kW a minute. Charge curve is >50kW up to 70% SOC, so that's really where you would stop when charging on the road as it falls off a cliff after that.
EV Database page for it is here.
Thanks, I'll take a look at that. Have been looking at Zapmap, but it tends to just recommend you to stop at a certain charge % rather than give you options along the way.
Most of the time I'll only be charging up to 80% at home as we tend to only do 60 miles per week normally, and we'll charge to 100% before the occasional longer trips we do that can be up to 250 miles.
Check what type of battery you have as lfp batteries like to be charged to 100% on a regular basis. It's only the older cobalt batteries that preferred 80% max charge.
Although if you are only doing such small mileage, I'd just run it till you are down to 20% then fully recharge that night and be done with it.
There are plenty of high mileage EVs out there that have done fully charge always or only max 80% charge and the results are pretty comparible so I wouldn't lose sleep over it
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I've also seen ABRP recommended as an alternative for those BMWs etc where they try to charge you for using the satnav etc...
Be interested to see how Jocky gets on as from memory your pattern is similar to my own, rather suboptimal-for-EVs pattern of driving (and I'm in no hurry to replace my ICE as I tend to drive them into the ground and my current one has lots of life in it still)
Be interested to see how Jocky gets on as from memory your pattern is similar to my own, rather suboptimal-for-EVs pattern of driving (and I'm in no hurry to replace my ICE as I tend to drive them into the ground and my current one has lots of life in it still)
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I get 298 motorway miles per charge on my 2024 Kona if I stick to 65mph and 286 miles if I go over 70mph for the journey.
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Indeed I am not ideal for EV as my driving is not high mileage - about 5000-6000 miles per year, where a third of that can be longer journeys.
Unfortunately my ICE car has had a few minor problems recently, and the root cause of them has been age, so time to get rid before it becomes a liability.
I've gone to EV because I like the technology and it will still be cheaper to run. A plug in hybrid might have been more practical, but the engineer in my brain just screams at me that carrying around both an ICE engine and an electric battery/motor is a daft compromise.
Exactly. A solution looking for a problem but with the capacity to create more problems. Really never saw the point in them. If your use case means you can't have an EV, buy an ICE and be done with it. A friend of mine bought a Kona hybrid (against my advice) and subsequently admitted that it was a pointless purchase.
A friend of mine is very anti EV. He says that they're too expensive, too heavy, too complicated and need 'special tyres'. He was telling me all this while we were driving along in his BMW X3 Plugin Hybrid that weighs 2 tons, I'm pretty sure has eye wateringly expensive run flat tyres and he can get a glorious 12 miles on a single charge.
As for being complicated, when I recently looked under the bonnet of an EV I wondered where they put all the stuff. Then I realised how complex an ICE engine is - you're pumping around air, fuel, oil and coolant and you never want any of the latter three to meet or unintentionally escape.
Am I hearing this right? £50 for 100 miles? Public charging in the UK is around 80p/kWh, so that's about 62kWh for £50, pretty much the fill of most longish range EVs these days (assuming you don't go below 10%). Something doesn't add up.
As you say this doesn't add up i checked out lowest range SUV and this came up -
- MG4 EV SE Standard Range: Has a range of 218 miles on a single charge and a 51 kWh battery
Yeah. And even if it's a lower range (and I can't see how as she's pumping over 60kWh into it every stop) it still should have better economy. I reckon I'd get around 300km out of my car from 62kWh and that's me with a heavy right foot and the need for speed.
Also now that I think of it. She definitely said it was Newcastle to Kent and it cost her £300. It's around a 600 mile round trip, so that tallies up with the £50/100 mile statement.
But. That doesn't include home charging, which, if you've any sense you'd use to fully charge before leaving and plan to be home on the last few electrons. Which should take a couple of 100 miles off public charging (assuming it is actually that bad for mileage).
But. That doesn't include home charging, which, if you've any sense you'd use to fully charge before leaving and plan to be home on the last few electrons. Which should take a couple of 100 miles off public charging (assuming it is actually that bad for mileage).
Maybe just another wind up merchant there seems to be a lot about.
Eh?
The absolutely worst efficiency EVs will do 3 miles per kWh. So 100 miles = 33.3kWh
Even charging at £1 per kWh the total is £33 - it’s nowhere near £50 per 100 miles.
A good EV should do 4 miles/kWh, and a service station charger is about £0.79/kWh, so £19.75 per 100 miles.
The absolutely worst efficiency EVs will do 3 miles per kWh. So 100 miles = 33.3kWh
Even charging at £1 per kWh the total is £33 - it’s nowhere near £50 per 100 miles.
A good EV should do 4 miles/kWh, and a service station charger is about £0.79/kWh, so £19.75 per 100 miles.
Maybe she's towing a horsebox with a couple of nags in it? Newcastle to Kent, makes sense.
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https://www.smmt.co.uk/2024/11/pre-loved-evs-soar-to-record-levels-as-used-car-market-goes-green/
Used car market up 4.3% in Q3, marking seventh quarter of growth as almost 2 million vehicles change hands....
a record 53,423 used battery electric vehicles (BEVs) found new owners, a jump of 57.0%, reflecting the largest-ever market share at 2.7%, up from 1.8% in the same period last year. Sales of plug-in hybrids and hybrids also rose, up 29.0% and 35.8% respectively.
This is after BEV sales were up by 24.5% year-on-year, comprising 20.7% of new car sales in October, compared to 15.6% in October 2023. Pure ICE sales are down to 56.6% of the market.
Of the big brands, Mercedes-Benz, Dacia, Volvo, Kia, Skoda, Citroen all grew >20% yoy in new cars, whereas Cupra, Ford, Audi and Vauxhall were all down >20% yoy.
Its definitely noticeable how many more green stripe number plates are on cars these days they used to be a rarity when they first came out
Although when I was counting them a couple of weeks ago I realised that not all EVs have the green stripe on them as the green stripe number plates were only introduced in 2020.
No idea what the point of them was/is though. Probably cost a fortune to implement for zero gain.
