Covid-19 the second wave.

[the_quick]

Tell me about it, first year I worked in school I have colds almost every 3 weeks, barely came out of one to get another. Long time ago.
Now we do what we can, but there are some holes is the guidance. For example teacher stay in a classroom with 30 kids for the lesson - no one is wearing the mask, all breathe same air for 50 minutes. And if this teacher is unlucky he/she will have 6 periods in the day like this, just with different classes , from different year groups.
I'm not being very optimistic, but in the way schools operate now, it will just help the spread - this is a secondary school. And If I heard right, kids above 12 years old can spread the virus in the same way and with the same efficiency as adults. Maybe we should a rotations in schools, so there are less kids at one time on the ground. Not sure what is the best solution, I fully support that kids should be in schools and get education

 

[Hoddy]

The cases are "rising" because they keep testing....the more you look the more you find...it's the death count that's critical and that's dropping....but we've all got to get back to work...
Reminds me of Tubbs from the League of Gentlemen...
I can I can't....
If it's all true....which I doubt it is..

You want petrol............

 

[Rodcx500z]

Having got back today from a week in Scotland ( Tummel Bridge ) just up the road from the queens view, we stayed at parkdean resort in a lodge they have it well sussed no check in = no queue you arrive at stated time your lodge is ready key inside, down load the app go in the bar give lodge number find a table order your drinks they bring them or your meal, days out were a different kettle of fish went to fort willam they either dont want to social distance or cant grasp it particular the younger end worst place was Dundee and Pitlochry, to top it off i got into a right row with one family at queens view yesterday every body was waiting there turn not these feckers kids and parents shoving in shoulder to shoulder so i asked them politly to get out of my space so she sets off on one there is no covid its all bollocks and besides that you have no right to be here bringing it with you, so i say hang on you said there is no covid so how can i bring it he then starts and before i could speak my misses said listen get away keep your distance or your bollocks will sore for a week and her exact words to his misses were speak one word and i will deck you were you stand when we got back to car i said what would you have done if she spoke she said i dont know i am not knocking Scotland guys its a great place and most folks we met were fantastic, it exactly the same here the minority spoiling it for the majority, you can still go out enjoy life just abide the rules and stay safe

 

[Cheshire Cat]

Wife and I caught a local bus yesterday, three old people , a couple and another guy all without masks. No challenge from the driver. A couple of teenagers were masked up as were we.

 

[Chippy_Tea]

Wife and I caught a local bus yesterday, three old people , a couple and another guy all without masks. No challenge from the driver. A couple of teenagers were masked up as were we.

Drivers here are not allowed to challenge those not wearing face coverings, my son works at a local supermarket part time and they were told from day one not to challenge any customers entering the store without a face covering.

 

[Gerryjo]

It's the same all over as the mask wearing is only guidance and not mandatory except for public transport in NI unless you are exempt but how is anyone supposed to know as you're not required to show proof.
On the plus side here they have handed out a few £1000 fines for not quarantining once back from holidays as this is mandatory.

 

[Chippy_Tea]

My son uses public transport a lot as his job is in the next town he says people not wearing them are few and far between and as has been said they may have health reasons for not wearing them.

 

[Moonraker]

Drivers here are not allowed to challenge those not wearing face coverings, my son works at a local supermarket part time and they were told from day one not to challenge any customers entering the store without a face covering.

My son had a summer job at a supermarket standing outside counting people in-out and insisting they wear a mask, only got called rude names by a-holes on a couple of occasions, but him being a 6' 9" rugby player might have something to do with that.... :^)

 

[peebee]

I've a 100% (ish) way of dealing with the rising virus infections:

Step 1: Spend most of your time reading forum for inspiration and to keep yourself indoors.

Step 2: Armed with inspiration, brew loads more beer.

Step 3: Drink beer until you can't remember where the front-door is (this will keep you indoors and not mingling with the filthy virus carrying hoards outside - or letting any of them in).

Step 9 (or whatever number we're up to): If you think you are remembering where the front-door is, drink more beer.

Problems: Getting the rest of the household to join in. 5 year old kids are a particular problem and will claim they don't like beer. You might find ropes and a funnel useful. Teenagers are no problem; pretend you're not looking and they'll just nick it.

And if you can, vote @Clint for next US president: With comments like he made earlier he is obviously President material (is his second name Trump?).

 

[Chippy_Tea]

I've a 100% (ish) way of dealing with the rising virus infections:

Step 1: Spend most of your time reading forum for inspiration and to keep yourself indoors.

Step 2: Armed with inspiration, brew loads more beer.

Step 3: Drink beer until you can't remember where the front-door is (this will keep you indoors and not mingling with the filthy virus carrying hoards outside - or letting any of them in).

Step 9 (or whatever number we're up to): If you think you are remembering where the front-door is, drink more beer.

Problems: Getting the rest of the household to join in. 5 year old kids are a particular problem and will claim they don't like beer. You might find ropes and a funnel useful. Teenagers are no problem; pretend you're not looking and they'll just nick it.

And if you can, vote @Clint for next US president: With comments like he made earlier he is obviously President material (is his second name Trump?).

 

[pms67]

I was at Queens view the other day (tummel bridge)and this bloody ignorant hey wait a min.........

 

[AdeDunn]

Tell me about it, first year I worked in school I have colds almost every 3 weeks, barely came out of one to get another. Long time ago.
Now we do what we can, but there are some holes is the guidance. For example teacher stay in a classroom with 30 kids for the lesson - no one is wearing the mask, all breathe same air for 50 minutes. And if this teacher is unlucky he/she will have 6 periods in the day like this, just with different classes , from different year groups.
I'm not being very optimistic, but in the way schools operate now, it will just help the spread - this is a secondary school. And If I heard right, kids above 12 years old can spread the virus in the same way and with the same efficiency as adults. Maybe we should a rotations in schools, so there are less kids at one time on the ground. Not sure what is the best solution, I fully support that kids should be in schools and get education

They already have plans in place to shift to a rota system, half in, half out, should infections in secondary schools spike too far. They had it in place before they opened the schools fully again. Don't panic Chippy, that's all I am going to say, straight facts.

 

[Chippy_Tea]

The daily confirmed figures for coronavirus cases have shown a significant jump in the past two days.

On Sunday they rose by nearly 3,000 and then on Monday by almost exactly the same again - the highest single day increases since May.

It means the UK is now seeing four times as many cases on average as it was in mid July.

And with the impact of the return of schools still to come - not to mention the re-opening of universities next month - fears are growing that cases and then deaths could start spiralling.

Are young people to blame?
The rise has been laid firmly at the door of young people. Around half of new cases in recent weeks have been diagnosed in people in their 20s and 30s.

Significant numbers of cases have also been identified in people in their 40s and 50s, as well as teenagers.

Full article - New virus figures show UK faces 'impossible balancing act'

 

[obscure]

The daily confirmed figures for coronavirus cases have shown a significant jump in the past two days.

On Sunday they rose by nearly 3,000 and then on Monday by almost exactly the same again - the highest single day increases since May.

It means the UK is now seeing four times as many cases on average as it was in mid July.

And with the impact of the return of schools still to come - not to mention the re-opening of universities next month - fears are growing that cases and then deaths could start spiralling.

Are young people to blame?
The rise has been laid firmly at the door of young people. Around half of new cases in recent weeks have been diagnosed in people in their 20s and 30s.

Significant numbers of cases have also been identified in people in their 40s and 50s, as well as teenagers.

Full article - New virus figures show UK faces 'impossible balancing act'

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However how many young people caught it during the first wave but it was never picked up, as for sever months you basically only got tested if you ended up in hospital.

Given that the government is insisting that people should go back to their offices and places of work, combined with the fact that younger people,with mild cases if Covid are now getting te it doesn’t seem at all surprising that working Age people are making up a higher percentage of all Covid cases.

 

[Chippy_Tea]

Tighter restrictions have been introduced in Bolton, including only allowing takeaways from hospitality venues, after a rise in Covid-19 cases.

The new measures also include a curfew which will require all venues to close between 22:00 and 05:00.

Health Secretary Matt Hancock said the town in Greater Manchester had "the highest case rate in the country."

He said there were 120 cases per 100,000 in Bolton, which had already been under stricter lockdown measures.

The announcement comes after ministers and government advisers expressed concern over a "sharp rise" in cases across the UK, especially amongst the young.

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Mr Hancock told the House of Commons: "Unfortunately, after improving for several weeks, we've seen a very significant rise in cases in Bolton.

"The rise in cases... is partly due to socialising by people in their 20s and 30s. We know this from contact tracing.

"And through our contacting tracing system we've identified a number of pubs at which the virus has spread significantly."

As well as restricting hospitality venues, he said visitor limits will also be put in place in care homes in Bolton.

He said: "I want us to learn the lesson from Spain, America and France - not to have to learn the lesson all over again ourselves through more hospitalisations and more deaths, and take this action locally in Bolton."

The move comes after plans to ease restrictions in Bolton were scrapped last week following a spike in Covid-19 cases.

 

[jof]

I've a 100% (ish) way of dealing with the rising virus infections:

Step 1: Spend most of your time reading forum for inspiration and to keep yourself indoors.

Step 2: Armed with inspiration, brew loads more beer.

Step 3: Drink beer until you can't remember where the front-door is (this will keep you indoors and not mingling with the filthy virus carrying hoards outside - or letting any of them in).

Step 9 (or whatever number we're up to): If you think you are remembering where the front-door is, drink more beer.

Problems: Getting the rest of the household to join in. 5 year old kids are a particular problem and will claim they don't like beer. You might find ropes and a funnel useful. Teenagers are no problem; pretend you're not looking and they'll just nick it.

And if you can, vote @Clint for next US president: With comments like he made earlier he is obviously President material (is his second name Trump?).

You forgot to mention that drinking beer is also a good way to test that your sense of taste is still working and that you are still covid free

 

[Kveik Freak]

I'm wondering how long it's going to take for us to be put in a second lockdown.

Where I live in central Scotland people are great at wearing masks inside shops but they take them off the minute they get outside. Better than nothing but still a bit complacent. Also it seems to be going house to house in Scotland rather than spreading via public areas, we'll see how well the extension of the lockdown in Glasgow and Renfrewshire works.

Am tempted just to head on over to Crisps in Alloa, get a nice big 25kg bag of malt, pick up some shopping on the way back and hunker down for the next fortnight.

 

[Chippy_Tea]

Where I live in central Scotland people are great at wearing masks inside shops but they take them off the minute they get outside.

Face covering is to stop us spreading it not to stop us breathing it in so when you are out in the open as long as you keep the recommended distance from others there is no reason to cover your nose and mouth.

 

[marshbrewer]

I honestly don't think we will see a second lockdown, not in the same sense as the first. More temporary localised restrictions, perhaps, but a country wide lockdown? I don't think so. I

 

[Covrich]

I was in Wales for a few weeks with work and combined it with a summer holiday went around, nobody there I see wears masks at all no one in shops or anything, just as they were I was pretty amazed actually