Can someone settle a grammatical argument?

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Wow, when I started this thread I was expecting a simple "you're right". How wrong I was. About the thread that is, not the eye colour thing. Good grief it's getting complicated.
 
Especially with rugby tonight and a few good games of footy, you can't expect a yes no answer. You asked a gentically and indepth question which also involved data recording and extrapolation methods from the nhs. Give your sister a big kiss from the forum...lol
 
Well, to take up and wave the pedantry flag.
Is this a grammatical problem? Seems to me that mathematics is at the core of it .......:nono:
Or is it semantics?

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There's no maths at question, it's understanding the words.
 
Grr, trying to watch the grand tour and getting distracted by this thread.

Sorry, I'm guilty of getting to point 2 and stopping reading after '....compared to anyone else'.

Having looked again my initial thought was that it wasn't stated so there's no implication. By saying most beer is missing "of the" you're creating a fake premise whereby you can add an alternative view where ".... compared to anyone else" is missing but somehow implied.

That's just wrong, and in trying to think how I'd explain it as wrong I'm thinking "Whilst you could say 'most of the beer', just saying 'most beer' is perfectly acceptable on its own too; there's nothing missing from that which allows you to just add an extra condition".

Hmm is that right? Would you say 'most beer'? But that's the thing, this isn't a fair comparison; it was "most people have blue eyes", are you going to say that this is shorthand for "most of the people have blue eyes"? It seems to me that trying to come up with analogies only confuses what was already very simple.

If I can be facetious (and when am I ever not):

I'm the best darts in the world.

I missed out 'at', and that's a false statement. I also missed out 'apart from people who are better than me', so it's alternatively true!


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Sorry. Shall we pretend this thread didn't happen?
 
Another way to look at it...
You asked a group of 100 people to each write down a random number, they all chose a unique number except for two people who both choose number 7. Would you say "most people chose the number 7"?
No you wouldn't... same thing with the eye colour.

Okay, the colour of 100 UK residents eyes were listed.

Four people were seen to have eyes described as being various shades of "blue", "green", "grey" or "brown"!

What were the other 96 shades of eye colour?

Answers on a very large Postcard please! :whistle: :whistle:
 
Okay, the colour of 100 UK residents eyes were listed.

Four people were seen to have eyes described as being various shades of "blue", "green", "grey" or "brown"!

What were the other 96 shades of eye colour?

Answers on a very large Postcard please! :whistle: :whistle:

:lol:
Pretty sure you've missed the point of the analogy.
Just because the number 7 was chosen more than the others does not mean "most people choose it". Likewise just because blue eyes are more common than the others does not mean "most people have blue eyes".
 
Or is it semantics?

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Even worse than that, Statistics.
You can prove anything with statistics!

The term Mode in statistics means the largest number is a set, in this case the mode is blue as it is the largest member of the population of eye colour.

Blue can only be described as the most in a comparative and not an absolute sense.
 
OK,

Thus, due to the ambiguities of the English language, Steve is either right or wrong depending on the interpretation. Nobody is right and nobody is wrong.

With a conclusion like that I am not sure if you should pursue a career in politics or Diplomacy, move over Nigel Farage!
 
Sorry Iain couldn't resist.


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Lol nice Churchill twist

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Fluoride? What's that? :wha:
Wait a minute.... rings a bell somehow.....

Oh, I remember, is it something they put into water?
I guess it's perfectly OK ,though.....:electric:
 
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