Bread Maker.

[JeffDragon7]

First time bread making today but fell at the first hurdle, we didn't have dried milk powder so searched and found a few threads saying you can substitute the water for skimmed milk, could members who have used one tell me if this is the case or is the first loaf going to be a disaster?

No need for milk powder Chippy, you can add some milk up to maybe 50% of the water maximum.
milk, egg and oil make the bread softer, I’ve no idea why bread machines always have milk powder in the recipe, I’ve made my own bread for years and never used it.

 

[JeffDragon7]

Breads made from flour water and yeast as long as you have these it's fine

And salt without salt the dough is horrible

 

[JeffDragon7]

SWMBO is going to try the recipe in the book then we are going to try no milk powder and see if we can spot the difference.

I like the sound of peanut butter bread and i will also give the cheese and onion bread a try.

Cheese bread
Bacon bread
Baked bean bread so much choice in flavours

 

[bobukbrewer]

CHIPPYTEA - use the bread maker to mix / knead for 20 mins, then transfer bread to a lined loaf tin, prove until an inch above top of tin, then bake at 200 deg C wirh a pan of water in the oven to create steam environment. Even better to make a yeast starter with your (bottled) water, 7 gm fast acting yeast, 2 gm sugar, tip of vitamin C and tip of yeast nutrient....and Sainsburys TTD flour with grains is great if you mix it 1:1 with TTD strong white bread flour..........

 

[bobukbrewer]

baked bean bread, lol, make the bread, toast it, butter it, cover with a whole tin of cold branston baked beans.......

 

[JeffDragon7]

baked bean bread, lol, make the bread, toast it, butter it, cover with a whole tin of cold branston baked beans.......

When I was on the railway, used to go in Boots at Waterloo and get a breakfast sandwich made with baked bean bread it was awesome

 

[SMP Brewery]

Sugar helps the crust form according to your own Paul Hollywood He puts sugar in his bread, good enough for him it's good enough for me.

I was given his book one Christmas and there is no mention of sugar in his recipes.
His basic Bloomer

500g strong white flour
10g salt
7g fast action yeast
40ml olive oil
320ml of water

 

[JeffDragon7]

I was given his book one Christmas and there is no mention of sugar in his recipes.
His basic Bloomer

500g strong white flour
10g salt
7g fast action yeast
40ml olive oil
320ml of water

A good basic recipe similar to mine only I use 8g of salt per 500 g flour, but that’s personal taste.
fast action yeast doesn't need sugar or premixing.
Sugar is only needed for sweet breads

 

[TonyT]

OK @Chippy_Tea I used a bread machine (Panasonic) for years.
They can make excellent bread, but I'd strongly advise that step 1 is throw away the recipe leaflet that came with the machine: over-complicated and designed to produce bread that will go down well with people raised on bread that comes in a plastic bag.

I used to have an excellent little book called 'make real bread in you breadmaker' but I gave it away to the person that bought the machine off me.
I still have a note of the 'basic white bread' recipe though so I'll dig it out for you asap.

In the meantime, just leave the milk out and use water.

I’ve got a Panasonic bread machine that I’ve had for years and I love it. The recipe book that came with it is ok, but they all quote liquid quantities that are too high, it takes a bit of trial and error to figure out what they should be,

 

[Chippy_Tea]

Thanks for all the feedback lots of things to try.

 

[Eskdale]

I was given his book one Christmas and there is no mention of sugar in his recipes.
His basic Bloomer

500g strong white flour
10g salt
7g fast action yeast
40ml olive oil
320ml of water

That's because you are using fast action yeast. He recommends one teaspoon of sugar to one table spoon of dry active yeast in 150 mm of warm water and dissolve the sugar first before adding the yeast to reactivate the yeast. He also uses sugar in one of his videos saying it makes for a better crust.

Emma

 

[The-Engineer-That-Brews]

I’ve got a Panasonic bread machine that I’ve had for years and I love it. The recipe book that came with it is ok, but they all quote liquid quantities that are too high, it takes a bit of trial and error to figure out what they should be,

This is the book I was thinking about that we used to have - it was bit of a revelation.. suddenly we were getting the kind of bread I'd been hoping for when we got the machine (but of course everyone's taste's differ and that's fine too )

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Fresh-Bread-Morning-Your-Machine/dp/0716021544

 

[HSD]

This is the book I was thinking about that we used to have - it was bit of a revelation.. suddenly we were getting the kind of bread I'd been hoping for when we got the machine (but of course everyone's taste's differ and that's fine too )

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Fresh-Bread-Morning-Your-Machine/dp/0716021544
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That’s the one, excellent book no faff, all the recipes tried have been great