American IPA - Too hop mad?

[NickW]

AG#13 Drago

Recipe specifics:

Style: American IPA
Batch size: 23.0 l
Boil volume: 27.0 l
OG: 1.059
FG: 1.015
Bitterness (IBU): 48.1
Color (SRM): 12.9
ABV: 5.8%

Grain/Sugars:

5.00 kg Maris Otter Malt, 87.3%
0.40 kg Munich (US), 7.0%
0.30 kg Crystal 70-80L (British), 5.2%
0.03 kg Roasted Barley, 0.5%

Hops:

20.00 g Centennial (AA 9.0%, Whole) 90 min, 17.3 IBU
20.00 g Cluster (AA 7.7%, Whole) 90 min, 14.8 IBU
10.00 g Centennial (AA 9.0%, Whole) 15 min, 4.0 IBU
10.00 g Cluster (AA 7.7%, Whole) 15 min, 3.4 IBU
10.00 g Centennial (AA 9.0%, Whole) 10 min, 2.9 IBU
10.00 g Cluster (AA 7.7%, Whole) 10 min, 2.5 IBU
10.00 g Centennial (AA 9.0%, Whole) 5 min, 1.6 IBU
10.00 g Cluster (AA 7.7%, Whole) 5 min, 1.4 IBU
10.00 g Centennial (AA 9.0%, Whole) 0 min, 0.0 IBU
10.00 g Cluster (AA 7.7%, Whole) 0 min, 0.0 IBU
40.00 g Centennial (AA 9.0%, Whole) dry hop
40.00 g Cluster (AA 7.7%, Whole) dry hop

Hi all,

Brewed a couple of APA's (not the same style I'm going for here) but have been disappointed with the hop punch, or lack of. Great beers, but a little smoother than I'd like, lacking the in your face hop ooomph.

What does this recipe look like, have I gone overboard?

 

[calumscott]

I read something recently which suggested that you need to get about 3/4 of your IBU from late additions for one of those mental hoppy yankee things...

Wish I could remember where. Might be in The Brewer's Apprentice, I'll take a look later.

 

[NickW]

AG#13 Drago

Recipe specifics:

Style: American IPA
Batch size: 23.0 l
Boil volume: 27.0 l
OG: 1.059
FG: 1.015
Bitterness (IBU): 48.6
Color (SRM): 12.9
ABV: 5.8%

Grain/Sugars:

5.00 kg Maris Otter Malt, 87.3%
0.40 kg Munich (US), 7.0%
0.30 kg Crystal 70-80L (British), 5.2%
0.03 kg Roasted Barley, 0.5%

Hops:

20.00 g Centennial (AA 9.0%, Whole) 20 min, 9.8 IBU
20.00 g Chinook (AA 11.5%, Whole) 20 min, 12.5 IBU
10.00 g Centennial (AA 9.0%, Whole) 15 min, 4.0 IBU
10.00 g Chinook (AA 11.5%, Whole) 15 min, 5.1 IBU
20.00 g Centennial (AA 9.0%, Whole) 10 min, 5.9 IBU
20.00 g Chinook (AA 11.5%, Whole) 10 min, 7.5 IBU
10.00 g Centennial (AA 9.0%, Whole) 5 min, 1.6 IBU
10.00 g Chinook (AA 11.5%, Whole) 5 min, 2.1 IBU
10.00 g Centennial (AA 9.0%, Whole) 0 min, 0.0 IBU
10.00 g Chinook (AA 11.5%, Whole) 0 min, 0.0 IBU
30.00 g Centennial (AA 9.0%, Whole) dry hop
30.00 g Chinook (AA 11.5%, Whole) dry hop

Thanks Calum, I believe I've read similar actually.

I've changed the hop schedule and replaced the cluster with chinook, as from reading my notes I'm not sure I'm overly keen on that hop...

The 0min hops will be steeped at 70-80c for 20 minutes at flameout - hope this won't increase bitterness too much.

S05
Mash at 64c?

 

[danb]

My aipa recipe I use your first hop schedule. But 40g at each addition. Aroma and flavour is amazing.

 

[NickW]

My aipa recipe I use your first hop schedule. But 40g at each addition. Aroma and flavour is amazing.

Do you use the same hops too dan? What about dry hopping?

 

[calumscott]

Thanks Calum, I believe I've read similar actually.

I've changed the hop schedule and replaced the cluster with chinook, as from reading my notes I'm not sure I'm overly keen on that hop...

The 0min hops will be steeped at 70-80c for 20 minutes at flameout - hope this won't increase bitterness too much.

S05
Mash at 64c?

Chinook is only my favourite late addition hop! Yum!

Didn't get a chance to dig through the book last night, too knackered, will try again today...

 

[NickW]

Never used Chinook,.will be my first attempt!

With the expected relatively high gravity, should I consider pitching 2 packets of S05?

Also - the recipe suggest a finishing gravity of 1.015 - surely the S05 will push it further?

 

[Algernon]

Looks tasty :-)
Have you considered Centennial for dry hopping? Also adds a massive USA style slap in the face like Chinook does -in fact, they go pretty well together...

 

[Sly Fox]

Looks absurd to me, but then I could never understand the American take on traditional styles - they seem like parody to me, every characteristic taken to an incredible excess. That said, don't let me deter you, you're brewing for your own enjoyment, so design recipes to suit your palate!

 

[NickW]

Looks tasty :-)
Have you considered Centennial for dry hopping? Also adds a massive USA style slap in the face like Chinook does -in fact, they go pretty well together...

30g dry hop of each in the recipe :

Completely understand where you're coming from fox. It's a completely different style really. But I'm working my way through them all... have yet to come across a beer I hate. Apart from Ginger beer :sick:

 

[calumscott]

have yet to come across a beer I hate.

Everything by Badger and Shepherd Neame. :sick:

(and various "household name" mass produced "lagers")

 

[danb]

My aipa recipe I use your first hop schedule. But 40g at each addition. Aroma and flavour is amazing.

Do you use the same hops too dan? What about dry hopping?

I use 20g of cascade and 20g of Willamette at each addition. Tastes great and will be the hop amounts I use for any IPA iI do.

 

[NickW]

have yet to come across a beer I hate.

Everything by Badger and Shepherd Neames

1698??? What a great beer

 

[jonnymorris]

With the expected relatively high gravity, should I consider pitching 2 packets of S05?

How old are they?

 

[NickW]

They'll be fairly new. Well over a year on the BBE