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Your mobile does listen to you. We've done a few random experiments in work talking about very specific things like golf clubs or trainers and then checked....sure enough the ads feed starts showing these items. Also even if you switch your phone off its its still on,you can be traced and found with it.
 
Considering the fuss that was made back in the 90's regarding CCTV being installed in town centres and how it was the beginning of 'Big Brother' and the erosion of our social liberty. It is just astounding how we have since sold our soul to the devil for a few shiny pieces of technology.

I don't know if it is possible to avoid it now - My wife has a nectar card and I buy online, so that is every thing we buy being monitored by someone, and heck I'm sure my internet history would soon give away my entire character away. But I do draw the line at carrying around a tracking device and installing listening-posts all around my house.
 
@Leon do you have any proof employee's of any company can use a smart phone to listen to conversations when the phone is in standby?

@Hopperty i agree although anyone listening to our conversations would get bored very quickly what about security you may be discussing Bank account details passwords etc to me it's just wrong.

Your phone is never on standby. I notice my phone randomly opens location services, so something is calling that up to see where my phone is.

Like a number of people I have had had random conversations only to find adverts appear on the days that proceed
 
If employees were listening to our phone conversations wouldn't this have hit the headlines like the smart speaker as most of us have a phone and few have a smart speaker.
 
If employees were listening to our phone conversations wouldn't this have hit the headlines like the smart speaker as most of us have a phone and few have a smart speaker.
Do you mean phone calls? Or just conversations had whilst a phone is near by. The latter is regularly in the news, so widely accepted that it's not in the news.
Everything we do can be tracked. Many years ago I was offered a job by air miles to write code that tracked shopping habits and in turn targeted customers with ads via junk mail etc.
 
Do you mean phone calls? Or just conversations had whilst a phone is near by. The latter is regularly in the news, so widely accepted that it's not in the news.

I would be shocked if our private phone calls were tegularly listen to unless of course you are a suspect in a police investigation and i would be surprised if our phones were being used to listen to our conversations when we are not using the phone.
 
I would be shocked if our private phone calls were tegularly listen to unless of course you are a suspect in a police investigation and i would be surprised if our phones were being used to listen to our conversations when we are not using the phone.

Why? Most apps ask for access to microphone. Most apps run in the background. Plenty of examples of it happening on the web if you care to search
 
I like our it connects to my inkbird that controls the fermenter fridge and my meater+ thermometer and and it tells me how my bbw and the dish is doing on temperature and when to take it out to rest or if the temp has climbed all fallen too much on the below and slo smoker. And if it fits a fan to control airflow it will tell the fan to go or not to regulate the temp nice a low etc. It controls the thermostat for me and the lights and plays my sound system just by asking for a play list or song. it is good thing. If people want to listen to what goes on in my front room they are welcome. I suspect they will quit for another job pretty quickly if they do!

I can tell it to add things to my ocado list and hen that compiles the list at the end of the week,. I can shout it to remind me to do something and it does and if i need a timer, i can set as many as I like.

I respect that lots of people are supsicious of it or just dislike them, fair enough what ever floats your boat.
 
I'm a smart phone luddite, and dont have one
That doesn't make you a luddite, it merely means that you are one of the elite intelligentsia who doesn't jump on the bandwagon of needing to have every last bit of new tech when it becomes available. I also don't have a "smart" 'phone. In fact, I'm not sure what one is. I have a mobile telephone - it lives in the car and is there in case I break down and need to call the RAC.
I also have a proper telephone, attached to the wall by a wire. I will never (I hope) have one of those sort-of telephones which have a base unit and wireless extra units, because the radiation emissions from them are as bad as from mobile telephones. Being willing to hold one of those things next to your brain implies that you don't understand the risks, or you don't think much of your brain, or you have a desire to commit suicide very slowly. Drink is a more pleasant option.
Oh well, it takes all sorts....
 
Why? Most apps ask for access to microphone. Most apps run in the background. Plenty of examples of it happening on the web if you care to search

When you install an app you are agreeing to let them use the microphone should they wish (including google assistant) that is different to someone listening to your private conversations without your knowledge or permission.
 
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Google said it "categorically" does not use what it calls "utterances" - the background sounds before a person says, "OK Google" to activate the voice recognition - for advertising or any other purpose. It also said it does not share audio acquired in that way with third parties.

Its listening abilities only extend to activating its voice services, a spokesperson said.

It also states in its content policy for app developers that apps must not collect information without the user's knowledge. Apps found to be breaking this are removed from the Google Play store.

Facebook also told the BBC it does not allow brands to target advertising based around microphone data and it never shares data with third parties without consent.

It said Facebook ads are based only around information shared by members on the social network and their net surfing habits elsewhere.

Other big tech companies have also denied using the technique.


Coincidence
There is of course also a more mathematical explanation - the possibility that there is really no connection at all between what we say and what we see.
Mathematics professor David Hand from Imperial College London wrote a book called The Improbability Principle, in which he argued that apparently extraordinary events happen all the time.

"We are evolutionarily trained to seek explanations," he told the BBC.

"If you see a sign you know is associated with a predator you run away and you survive.

"It's the same sort of thing here. This apparent coincidence occurs and we think there must be explanation, it can't be chance. But there are so many opportunities for that coincidence to occur.

"If you take something that has a tiny chance of occurring and give it enough opportunities to occur, it inevitably will happen."

People are generally more alert to things that are currently occupying them, such as recent conversations or big decisions like buying a car or choosing a holiday, he added.

So suddenly those sorts of messages stand out more when they may have been in the background all the time.

Beautiful
Prof Hand is not immune to the lure of coincidence himself.

When his book was published another author published a very similar title at the same time. The author of The Coincidence Authority, John Ironmonger, shared the same birthday as Prof Hand and was based at the same university as his wife.

"These sorts of things happen," he said.

"Just because I understand why it happened doesn't make it any less beautiful."

BBC news.
 
How to turn off "OK Google" Android voice search

Google voice search is a powerful feature of all the AI Assistant found in almost all Android-powered smartphones, allowing your device to carry out internet searches, call contacts, take photos, set an alarm, create a calendar event, make a note, the list goes on.

However, not everyone wants to use the voice-controlled feature for various reasons. Some don't like the idea of their smartphone listening to them, while others don't speak English that well and don't see the benefits of keeping the feature turned on.

Whatever the reason may be, here is a simple tutorial on how you can turn the feature off on your Android phone. The process is very simple and only takes a couple of seconds to complete.




    • Navigate to Settings
    • Tap the General tab
    • Under "Personal“ find "Language and Input“
    • Find "Google voice typing“ and tap the Settings button (cog icon)
    • Tap "Ok Google“ Detection
    • Under the "From the Google app“ option, move the slider to the left.

That's it, you have succesfully turned OK Google off.

In case you can't find the settings, there is another way:




    • Open the Google app
    • In the top left corner of the page, touch the Menu icon
    • Tap Settings > Voice > "OK Google“ Detection
    • From here, you can choose when you want your phone to listen when you say "Ok Google."
https://www.itproportal.com/guides/how-to-turn-off-ok-google-android-voice-search/


Or another way -



 
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When you install an app you are agreeing to let them use the microphone should they wish (including google assistant) that is different to someone listening to your private conversations without your knowledge or permission.

I never said/meant different
 
I never said/meant different

I realise now i misread your post (#26) and thought you meant listening to private calls was commonplace.

The thread has prompted me to turn snooping off i use opera browser on phone & tablet so i never see adverts leaving me blissfully unaware this kind of thing is going on.
 
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I realise now i misread your post (#26) and thought you meant listening to private calls was commonplace.

The thread has prompted me to turn snooping off i use opera browser on phone & tablet so i never see adverts leaving me blissfully unaware this kind of thing is going on.
I use it to my advantage. Around Xmas time I start using my wife's iPad and Google brewing relates products. She will then get brewing ads and ideas for my presents. I also fill her eBay basket with brewing stuff
 
I use it to my advantage. Around Xmas time I start using my wife's iPad and Google brewing relates products. She will then get brewing ads and ideas for my presents. I also fill her eBay basket with brewing stuff

Sounds like a cunning plan. :laugh8:
 
In an age of growing artificial companions, I can see the appeal! you know that we are hitting new lows when the self check out at my local tesco is yards more polite than the staff, it is Hackney though! Thank you for shopping at.....
 

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