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So they use tallow in its production will 80,000 petition signatures change this?


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Bring on the vegan do-gooder's, I can't put that in my wallet it's just cruel, get a life will ya. Oh and finings will be next you must tell me if my beer has fish guts in it, or I could sue you for that
 
Frankly I couldn't care less if they made them out of slices of Bacon, . what next ban leather shoes?

in which life do people think that we will be able to make every one happy all of the time.

so if there is a petition and it gets the number, does that mean a counter petition with equal or great numbers "trumps" it?
 
The beef fat or tallow is in the polymer used in the Base material /polyester of the note. Have these petitioners thought of other possible items where animal products are used? Perhaps they could use pork fat...no can't do that....what about chip fat...yes that would suit lots of people.
Tallow my arse!

Cheers

Clint
 
I'm never eating another fiver again...:-(

Can't say I have ever been tempted, it's cheaper to buy a burger and keep the change.
I can imagine Heston Blumethal putting thrice cooked fivers on his menus at �£50 a go with a plain piece of plastic (thrice cooked of course) as the vegetarian option.

It's all about the presentation (apparently?) and it has the Royal seal of approval stamped right on it!
 
Personally I think that so long as animals are killed for food we should endeavour to use as much as the byeproduct as possible.. tallow included.

We all brew, we all like efficiency. It's the same. Sort of
 
Personally I think that so long as animals are killed for food we should endeavour to use as much as the byeproduct as possible.. tallow included.

We all brew, we all like efficiency. It's the same. Sort of

I would have the same sentiment as this too. I have no problem with eating meat but there is a need for respect for life in general.
 
Frankly I couldn't care less if they made them out of slices of Bacon, . what next ban leather shoes?

in which life do people think that we will be able to make every one happy all of the time.

so if there is a petition and it gets the number, does that mean a counter petition with equal or great numbers "trumps" it?

I think the problem is you can choose not to wear leather shoes but you can't choose not to use money.
 
If the notes can be made for the same cost without producing something that is fundamentally offensive to a significant proportion of the population (Hindus, Buddhists, vegetarians, vegans etc) then why not do that? I'm none of these things, but I see no point in making life more difficult for people if it's easily avoidable.
 
I agree...but...I work in the industry that produces stuff that gets made into banknotes. As you can imagine the processes,materials,composition and security are top priority and not something that is advertised for obvious reasons...the notes would probably have to be redesigned. ...I doubt they will recall.

Cheers

Clint
 
maybe if you use those �£5 notes to make a donation to an animal charity or to buy vegetables the 'badness' of the �£5 is cancelled out :hmm:
 
I think the problem is you can choose not to wear leather shoes but you can't choose not to use money.


That may be the case, but try living without any animal product.

My wife was vegan, then veggie and now fishatarian. I definitely would bet anyone to say they were animal product free was kidding them self on.

Christ even the oil/ gas we heat our homes with is made from decomposed million year old animals and plants.
 
True vegans have a very, very hard time. A lot of foods contain animal gelatins (cheap thickener), aphid derrived colorants, egg powder, whey (protein), isinglass etc..
 
I recognise the religious aspects of not eating various types of meat and I can understand why handling the new five-pound note is obnoxious to various religious groups.

However, I cannot understand the logic of removing all kinds of animal and fish products from our diets because humans are omnivores.

With our teeth and digestive system we are designed to eat almost any form of food which is why we have incisors (for cutting), canines (for ripping) and molars (for grinding).

Most of the religious taboos are actually based on rational and reasonable behaviour, but you often have to look into the background circumstances surrounding the religious requirement to discover why a certain act is forbidden.

Here is a non religious example.

Everyone knows that a dead oyster will produce toxins that can make people violently ill or even kill them.

Oysters eaten in London have to be transported from the coast; and in days of yore, the oysters were transported in barrels by horse and cart in unrefrigerated conditions.

In the UK, the months of May, June, July and August are the hottest months of the year and during these months the unrefrigerated oysters would often die and become toxic during transportation.

So it was a very wise person who abided by the saying ...

"Never eat an oyster unless there is an 'R' in the month."
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I would have the same sentiment as this too. I have no problem with eating meat but there is a need for respect for life in general.

We have a respect for life because we are so called "civilised" even if at the end of the day we are still just another breed of animal. Look at animals in the wild they have no such civilised thoughts of putting other species before themselves and they kill to survive. No need for cruelty but if the animal if dead then why not use all the parts of it.
 
That may be the case, but try living without any animal product.

My wife was vegan, then veggie and now fishatarian. I definitely would bet anyone to say they were animal product free was kidding them self on.

What has your wife got against the poor fish?
 
Can't say I have ever been tempted, it's cheaper to buy a burger and keep the change.
I can imagine Heston Blumethal putting thrice cooked fivers on his menus at ��£50 a go with a plain piece of plastic (thrice cooked of course) as the vegetarian option.

It's all about the presentation (apparently?) and it has the Royal seal of approval stamped right on it!

But possibly if it's a MacDonalds you've bought, the plastic fiver is more nutritious....
 

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