WW3

[An Ankoù]

It's like listening to the BBC

Steady on, old chap!

 

[Omega]

Biden has given the green light for Ukraine to use long range missiles these have a range of 200 miles, Putin has already said he will use nukes if they hit Russia will this force Putin into a corner and he will use them?

On the topic - analysts suggest hybrid war will get on with knives out. No more gentlemanly behaviour. Well , we will see, unfortunately
https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/nov/19/us-russia-ukraine-missile-attacks

I cannot stop suspecting that Biden deliberately does this to make sure he embarrasses Trump and this way improves chances for democrats to win next elections. Ukraine and Russia are just a sideshow

 

[Chippy_Tea]

cannot stop suspecting that Biden deliberately does this to make sure he embarrasses Trump and this way improves chances for democrats to win next elections. Ukraine and Russia are just a sideshow

I agree its too much of a coincidence he decided to allow this just as he is leaving office.

 

[Chippy_Tea]

On the topic - analysts suggest hybrid war will get on with knives out. No more gentlemanly behaviour. Well , we will see, unfortunately

I didn't read the full article but lets not forget Putin doesn't play by the rules he has no interest in the Geneva Convention he may not use nukes but he could use chemical weapons to kill as many Ukrainians as possible if he thinks he may lose the war.

The inquiry report was released on 21 January 2016. The report found that Litvinenko was killed by two Russian agents, Andrei Lugovoi and Dmitry Kovtun and that there was a "strong probability" they were acting on behalf of the Russian FSB secret service.

 

[Omega]

I didn't read the full article but lets not forget Putin doesn't play by the rules he has no interest in the Geneva Convention he may not use nukes but he could use chemical weapons to kill as many Ukrainians as possible if he thinks he may lose the war.

Both sides commit crime, no moral superiority of one side over the other. An example - this is a video from US and British fighters, time 52:48 - British fighter admits he does not take prisoners in a trench warfare. Minute 55:08 - US fighter confirms he shoots even lying opponents as he does not know if they were disabled. In my understanding, this is war crime, but how can anyone demand them comply with various Conventions and accept an excessive risks? They are military, not police
Both sides accused each other in using chemical weapons already - there are videos when both sides used tear gas to force the opposition from the bunkers

 

[Omega]

The inquiry report was released on 21 January 2016. The report found that Litvinenko was killed by two Russian agents, Andrei Lugovoi and Dmitry Kovtun and that there was a "strong probability" they were acting on behalf of the Russian FSB secret service.

As I understand, British law demands to prove "beyond reasonable doubt" and "strong probability" is not enough to be considered "beyond reasonable doubt"

I agree it's too much of a coincidence he decided to allow this just as he is leaving office.

I thought this may backfire against Zelenskyy - Putin may now have an argument to Trump (imagine this like a meeting between mob): "You see, he disrespected me. I, on the other side, was patient waiting for you to come to power and make your judgement. He also disrespected you because he went against your wishes to de-escalate. We are on the same page that he cannot get away with this. I understand you cannot let me kill him because he is your b**ch, but your b**ch is mad. He must be punished, this will be the right thing, And he must be heavily punished so that he does not do it again. So, give me not only 4 regions of Ukraine that I already took, but also Odessa, Kharkiv and all Black Sea coast until Moldova as a moral compensation and I will forget all grievances"

 

[Stu]

The problem is, Trump can't stop the war. Europe will keep it running, even if Trump pulls out. He has no wish to fight Europe.

As for this thread being like the BBC, it's more like G Beebies. Lots of people who have no idea what they're talking about (me included) arguing like we're some kind of experts.

There are no experts in this thread. But some wild opinions. I'm surprised Covid and mind altering jabs haven't been brought into it

 

[Omega]

The problem is, Trump can't stop the war. Europe will keep it running, even if Trump pulls out. He has no wish to fight Europe.

As for this thread being like the BBC, it's more like G Beebies. Lots of people who have no idea what they're talking about (me included) arguing like we're some kind of experts.

There are no experts in this thread. But some wild opinions. I'm surprised Covid and mind altering jabs haven't been brought into it

Well said

 

[Chippy_Tea]

As for this thread being like the BBC, it's more like G Beebies. Lots of people who have no idea what they're talking about (me included) arguing like we're some kind of experts.

You don't have to be an expert to have an opinion on whether we should be allowing missiles given to the Ukraine to used on Russia and what may be the concequences if you don't want to take part and don't like what is being discussed stop reading the thread.

 

[Rodcx500z]

Can i suggest it is closed, reading the comments i now know why we have the leaders we have

 

[Brew_DD2]

Can i suggest it is closed, reading the comments i now know why we have the leaders we have

Self-awareness.

 

[Chippy_Tea]

Can i suggest it is closed, reading the comments i now know why we have the leaders we have

No as I said earlier if you don't like the discussion stop reading it put the thread on your ignore list why should those who do want to discuss the war lose the means to do so because a member doesn't like what they are discussing?