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I got a gallon Beaverdale Cab Sav kit on the go tonight. After having been AG brewing for a few years I was a bit dissapointed that I had it all done and tucked away in about 10 minutes. :lol:

Now for the job of making sure I have enough empties :cheers:
 
hehe dunfie, sounds like you need a good long walk scavenging fruit from hedgerows! roll on the warmer months...
 
Hi all,

Good to see a nice diverse range of wine brewers from classic to modern. I'm a beer and wine brewer and enjoy experimenting with everything from Turbo Cider to Gooseberry Wine (if I can find the Gooseberries). I've currently got an experimental batch of Ginger beer undergoing a secondary fermentation, a White Port (just a strong white wine currently) finally creeping down to it's final gravity (current abv about 16%), A Pyment Mead (grape juice and mead) about to finish it's fermentation and a ginger cider.

The ginger cider was just apple nectar (apple juice,sugar and water) thrown onto the yeast slurry of the finished ginger beer. The Mead was made by melting two jars of honey in some red grape juice and tipping that onto the yeast slurry of a red wine and topping up with water. White port started life as White wine and i've been adding sugar slowly to top up it's alcohol levels bit by bit as they ferment out. Once a strong white wine is brewed I'll rack it off the sediment and add Brandy to boost the alcohol to around 20-22% and leave that to drop bright before bottling.

Look forward to seeing some good recipes and i'll pitch in and help anywhere I think I can.
 
Hi Arturo

thanks for dropping in and saying hi and a bit about your brews. There's brews in your list that i can well imagine myself aspiring to, mead and port to name 2 in particular. Using yeast slurries sounds great, is it as simple as it seems, just chuck your liquor + nutrients etc on top and off it goes?

welcome to the group, i'm sure there's plenty you know that can improve all our brewing skills!
 
Thanks and likewise I'll definitely be picking things up too.

Pitching onto yeast slurry is usually looked upon as fairly dangerous but with low cost wines in small quantities I'm not adverse to the risk. It's basically a faster ferment as the yeast has developed, grown and is hungry for sugar. The risk involved is in potentially infecting your brew by unsanitary yeast conditions. I rack off existing wine/cider and pitch onto the yeast cake in the same day minimising risks and i don't really reuse a yeast cake more than once.

I usually only do it when I want to use that specific yeast for a similar/ derived wine. I wanted to make Pyment Mead so I used a red wine yeast slurry.........wanted a ginger cider so I pitched apple juice onto a Ginger Beer yeast etc...

Port looks to be a definite long haul but it's something that you enjoy in moderation (mostly) and therfore a 5 gallon batch over the course of a year or so in production seems like a worthy effort. Sparkling and sediment free wine is my next big venture but I'm going to need to get some equipment for that laborious process.
 
Definately want to try my hand at winemaking....need to get my brewing sorted first though. Stumbled on twenty demijohns this weekend for a deal so I snatched them all in hopes of using them for wine and cider after I get a few brews under my belt. :party:
 
Hey Bradley

thanks for saying hi to us all. I'm sure that whatever your style is you'll find some company here, and if you want recipe suggestions to get started then you'll get plenty.
 
Being very new to wine making, I was asked to come along and introduce myself....

So here goes.....

Started with Beer Kits when I turned 28 in February of last year and moved on to a full all grain setup during Sep08. Its the best thing I have done as I feel very confident that I can make quality beers from scratch. So far I have made 12 beers and only one wasn’t that great.

During my 29th birthday I though I would give wine making a try, wife was straight on board with this idea since a pals dad gave us a bottle of his 1 year old Blackberry and Raspberry wine and it was outstanding! Strong but very nice.

Researched a lot and bought CJJ Berry’s book “First Steps in Wine Making”. It always seems I get very involved with finding out as much as possible and everything I read day in day out relates to a new part of this hobby.

Bought a few new demijohns and got more from a car-boot sale and started making wine.

I have two 6 bottle kits going and another 4 demijohns of country wine of various flavours. Also started off a peach wine from tinned peaches. All I need now are bottles!!! Only have 13.

I haven’t even gotten as far yet to degas the wine but should be doing this to the red Barolo kit tonight (26.03.09). Read a lot into this too and going to try the wine saver route to extract the gas using a hand pump. Local home brew shop said this wouldn’t work, but well I’ll try it and see for myself.

I’m also a member of The Scottish Craft Brewers for Beer making.

I still feel I don’t know what I’m doing and was a bit worried as when I’m transferring the must from the bin I need to sieve out the fruit particles and it seems to aerate the liquid too much. It is fermenting but worried I added oxygen into the must. Seems a program I was watching actually encourages this when its fermenting to give the yeastys a good environment. Suppose its only important after fermentation has finished?

I’m a very keen gardener and have veggie plot in my garden and planted current bushes and raspberry bushes a few years ago and hope this year will give me a lot of fruit. I love growing veg and fruit and really want to use these in my wines, although I don’t like the sound of veg wine.

Finally, I have a website setup, like an online diary (blog) of my Brewing, Veggie growing and Astronomy take a look if your interested.

Well gotta go……cheers!!!

Chris


PS – I do have one question…….kits make 6 bottles but it seems the level drops after you rack so surly you need to top up? Does this not alter the gravity since your introducing more sugars?
 
Hi Chris, thanks for saying hi to us all.

i'll try and pick through some of the points, questions or uncertainties that you have mentioned.

First off, as you can tell from my signature i rate Berry's book and as a newcomer to winemaking you'll find it full of good info and ideas/recipes. The only criticism worth taking seriously of the book is that he tends to make wine on the sweet side. However all the info for tailoring wine to your tastes is in there. As you have some brewing background already you'll find it a breeze. There are occasional misprints to watch out for, but perhaps your new edition has these corrected. For example one recipe mixes up the listed quantities when converting from 'per gallon' to a 2 gallon brew. Its correct in the descriptive part, but they forget to do the math in the table. Can't remember which recipe, only found one like that and brewed plenty from his book. The size and quality of some exotic fruits has also improved greatly over the decades and you may want to take this into consideration too, pineapples for example. Anyway, all very minor points, and no cause for concern, it is an introductory text so in time you may want something more specialised, personally i use the www plenty when embarking on new brews, often i revert to berry but maybe stick in a little something extra that i see while surfing.

Degassing wines ... TBH i haven't bothered with this until reading through the shiraz kit instructions that i have just made. It seems a bit of a faff, but i enjoy it, i imagine i look like i'm cradling a newborn while i do it, and i get nice winey whiffs through the airlock at the same time. I'll probably continue to do it now for other wines and will be curious to see how much it improves the wines apart from perhaps speeding up the clearing process. Flavour wise i imagine it should help too as there will be less oxidation but how much?. And you're right ... while fermenting you want dissolved oxygen in the brew for the yeast.

Topping up ... i usually just add water to my wines if the demi-john needs topping up. I have usually followed berry's recipes and found that water works ok. Perhaps because berry is on the sweet, and often strong, side so water is ok. It does mean that if you want to know your figures precisely (OG, FG and ABV) then you'll have to do some maths, which i can't be bothered with for the most part. I think berry recommends topping up with the same liquid that you started your brew with, which avoids the maths, but may have you demi-johns accompanied by lots of little satellite fermenting vessels.

Veg wines ... i felt much the same as you, but at the tail end of last year i got a parsnip wine on the go, and its gonna be a beauty. absolutely clear, tastes fruity, citrus, white grape wine, not a hint of parsnip. Really pleased with it but all accounts suggest about a year before drinking so i'll be patient yet! I'll be trying pea pod wine if we get enough from our garden.

as always i've rambled on a bit! I'm sure you'll get the benefit of other folks' experience too regarding some or all of what i/we have said. happy brewing :drunk:

as if i didn't write enough already .... an after thought. When i made the green tea and ginger wine i used muslin bags (sterilised and rinsed well ofc). It made it easy to remove the solids when i wanted (at two different times) and squeeze the juices out too. Might help with the loss of volume you mentioned. I took care to avoid the added risk of infection by rolling the bags daily so that the surfaces didn't dry out or go vinegary or whatever.
 
Thanks for the detailed responce.

I too will be trying a peapod wine. Last year we got a bumper crop of peas so if this years the same I'm gonna give it a try.

Sounds interesting! Wonder if it'll be green! ;) hahaha
 
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