Why no massive hop flavour? Out of date hops maybe?

[Sadfield]

My observation of the recipe is that 2.4g/l of dry hopping won't get that in your face American IPA flavour and aroma. Double that should be your start point. Also, many US brewers use low colour crystal malts (carapils) as the body from dextrins give something for the hop aroma compounds to bind to.

All the other additions look ok, although moving additions to the last 15minutes will help. As suggested, using a cleaner US yeast would also let the hops shine through.

Do you do any water treatment?

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[TheRedDarren]

I brewed this: http://www.brewersfriend.com/homebrew/recipe/view/403230/amarillo-and-simcoe-ipa
A few weeks ago. It's really nice, has a good bit of body and a bit or residual sweetness due to the English yeast but....... The hops are not massive, they are not 'in your face' they are very muted - It's a nice beer, I really enjoyed it at the weekend but I was expecting a bit punchy, in your face IPA with all the late additions and I'm wondering if maybe the hops are to blame? I always buy from my local brewstore in Edinburgh and they are vacuum sealed but I just cant explain why there is so little hops in the finished beer. Below is the hop schedule

5 g Amarillo Leaf/Whole 8.1 Boil 60 min
5 g Simcoe Leaf/Whole 13.8 Boil 60 min
10 g Amarillo Leaf/Whole 8.1 Boil 15 min
10 g Simcoe Leaf/Whole 13.8 Boil 15 min
20 g Amarillo Leaf/Whole 8.1 Boil 10 min
20 g Simcoe Leaf/Whole 13.8 Boil 10 min
20 g Amarillo Leaf/Whole 8.1 Boil 5 min
20 g Simcoe Leaf/Whole 13.8 Boil 5 min
20 g Amarillo Leaf/Whole 8.1 Boil 0 min
20 g Simcoe Leaf/Whole 13.8 Boil 0 min
25 g Amarillo Leaf/Whole 8.1 Dry Hop 7 days
25 g Simcoe Leaf/Whole 13.8 Dry Hop 7 days

What yeast are you using? I used wlp022 and it completely muted the hop flavour and aroma, I then brewed exactly the same recipe with wlp001 (similar to us-05) and it was a proper in your face hop bomb.
You have 200g of hops there, you could go to 300g if you like.

 

[Blinky]

The yeast was good old US05 - I have a single hop Nelson Sauvin on the go at the moment. The recipe does not have any dry hops in it but I was thinking of adding about 70grams of Dry Hop pellet? Only issue I can forsee, will I get the beer clear after 70g of pellets added as dry hop?

 

[Thorbz]

Pellets settle out fine if you cold crash for a few days, I just chuck 'em in loose. As for the pellets versus leaf debate, I haven't noticed a huge difference. I recently made a Mosaic Pale Ale, with a total of 100g of 2012 Mosaic leaf added towards the end of the boil and post boil. I wasn't expecting anything special, given the age of the hops, but I've been told it's one of my better beers, and certainly pretty hoppy, even after several months in the bottle. I do think storage is important, both yours and your suppliers, as a cool environment will retard the ageing process.

 

[Blinky]

I gave up cold crashing as I could never get the carbonation right - it was usually over carbed or way undercarbed, tried the calculators but just not sure i can trust them when its been cold crashed

 

[geetee]

The yeast was good old US05 - I have a single hop Nelson Sauvin on the go at the moment. The recipe does not have any dry hops in it but I was thinking of adding about 70grams of Dry Hop pellet? Only issue I can forsee, will I get the beer clear after 70g of pellets added as dry hop?

I used half and half pellets in a recent NZ pale and total hops is over 200g with 100 dry hop plus 50g hop tea. Used stockings to filter the hops.

I have attached a photo of the beer, bottled 1 week ago warm until sunday and now chilled for 2 days. it is reasonably clear ( looks worse in the photo) and expect it to clear a bit more yet.

 

[jceg316]

Vacuum packed on the shelf, not frozen though

They are probably usable. I'd use them for bittering though in case any flavour has deteriorated, and maybe up the amount to account for AA loss. There are calculators online which can calculate AA loss and amend bittering quantities.