This is a debate no one can win, I brew ale for pleasure, mainly bitters and ipa's pale ale but, I will still buy something that takes my fancy even at huge cost mainly porters and stouts I don't like stuff that freeze the senses, in a pub I will go for bitter ,pale ale, ipa at 3 or 4 quid ago, these are the bread and butter of most brewerys I can brew these at home for a third or less of the cost I brewed 80 pints of bitter not long back cost 27p a pint, so each to their own I say, yep I was brought up on bitter proper boddintons, greenhall whitley , and the like