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Mr_S_Jerusalem
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We have vegetarian food quite often.
I’m particularly keen on falafel hummus and avocado wraps. Also we sometimes have ratatouille with poached eggs and a pitta.
We also nearly always have quorn fajitas an quorn lasagne when we have them.
My girlfriend tried vegan for a month and I think found it particularly hard. The cheese is crap and you have to be REALLY imaginative with your menus
I’m particularly keen on falafel hummus and avocado wraps. Also we sometimes have ratatouille with poached eggs and a pitta.
We also nearly always have quorn fajitas an quorn lasagne when we have them.
My girlfriend tried vegan for a month and I think found it particularly hard. The cheese is crap and you have to be REALLY imaginative with your menus
DavidHatton
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100%, Disgustipated, I thought someone would notice the reference, Been afan since I saw them play with Rage against the machine in the 90's, maybe 92. What you make of their new release?
An Ankoù
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Indeed. It's just not kosher.
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I've actually never been a big fan tbh, my best mate loved them back in the day which is how I was exposed to them. They're a band that I appreciated more than I actually enjoyed listening to, I was more into the heavier stuff
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I don't want to eat religious food and it is not labelled in UK supermarkets. What happened to freedom of choice. Am i not allowed to boycot anything anymore. Heaven forbid i offend anyone.
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Should we be discussing slaughter on a beer forum, I am not a fan of hal hal or kosher but this is not the place to talk about it, have a beer and be happy 
This part of the forum is for general discussion. Crack on.
Makes me chuckle when people object to halal and kosher on the basis of cruelty, as if the alternative is humane. Whataboutery and veiled xenophobia at its finest.
Makes me chuckle when people object to halal and kosher on the basis of cruelty, as if the alternative is humane. Whataboutery and veiled xenophobia at its finest.
Should we be discussing slaughter on a beer forum, I am not a fan of hal hal or kosher but this is not the place to talk about it, have a beer and be happy
This comment crops up regularly here so I will repeat myself again - the Snug as its description explains is the place for all non beer discussion but of course beer discussion is allowed here the only thing that isn't is anything that breaks the forum rules.
I'm having another beer 
I have killed lambs myself using a stun gun first (we used to call them humane killers, which is a bit of a misnomer as they don't kill). I'm afraid the laws of physics, combined with animal anatomy mean that an animal *must* be more aware of death if it isn't stunned first. As to if that period of time is sufficient in the grand scheme of things to regard non stun kills as cruel, I wouldn't like to say.
But, hey, let's just shout 'bigot' at everyone rather than discuss things like adults, eh?
I think it's fair to discuss the relative merits of kill methods. What I take issue with is those who shout halal/kosher from the rooftops
The majority of those people won't be able to tell you what they find objectionable about it, and their motives are very clear, and it is bigotry.
I accept that this will not fit for everyone however.
Just for clarity, about 84% of animals slaughtered that are certified Halal are stunned prior to the slaughter, as it is permissable. That's the RSPCA figure.
MyQul
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Them parsnips down my allotment are in so much trouble...
I was just contemplating my previous comments and saw this; https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/stories-50986683
I can't imagine every day life like that. I really empathise with what the full time workers in abattoirs must have to cope with.
I used to do an inspection, and yup, then just go for my lunch afterwards. But, TBH even then my brief exposure left many negative memories. I still ate meat and accepted various food processing businesses as an essential part of our society. Including using animal offal, fish by-products, tripe, chicken processing and even kebab suppliers,,, Yup, been there and seen all that.
However, the procedure from farm to fork for most people is something they still chose to shut their eyes to, ignore and hidden processing they would not contemplate as long as they get their juicy, BBQ prime sizzling (mainly) beef burger.
My concerns now also the energy used to produce the volume of meat we blindly stuff in our faces and I do not think it can continue when other parts of the world starve.
I can't imagine every day life like that. I really empathise with what the full time workers in abattoirs must have to cope with.
I used to do an inspection, and yup, then just go for my lunch afterwards. But, TBH even then my brief exposure left many negative memories. I still ate meat and accepted various food processing businesses as an essential part of our society. Including using animal offal, fish by-products, tripe, chicken processing and even kebab suppliers,,, Yup, been there and seen all that.
However, the procedure from farm to fork for most people is something they still chose to shut their eyes to, ignore and hidden processing they would not contemplate as long as they get their juicy, BBQ prime sizzling (mainly) beef burger.
My concerns now also the energy used to produce the volume of meat we blindly stuff in our faces and I do not think it can continue when other parts of the world starve.
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The RSPCA, what a wonderful charity here's what you can earn working for this charity, https://www.indeed.co.uk/cmp/Rspca/salaries, and they put down a lot of animals https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...rescue-animals-nearly-30-cent-sleep-year.html still want to give your hard earned
Wouldn't give em the steam off my piss...they'd ban fishing if they could..heathens.
MyQul
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I havent got any views either way re: the RSPCA but I'm sure they only put down animals that are sick, injured or are pain beyond any medical treatment. I imagine their exec's arent out pheasant shooting on the weekends
An Ankoù
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That's hardly fair. Concern for animals' well being doesn't imply xenophobia at all. And it certainly doesn't imply a moral imperative to become vegan or veggie. The balance of informed opinion is that animals do suffer more when subjected to halal or kosher ritual slaughter and it should be stopped. To be fair, it is likely that many animals suffer as much or even more under some of our dodgy slaughter-house practices. That needs to be sorted out- it doesn't excuse ritual slaughter. For the record, I'm also suspicious of genital mutilation of young children, and the mental damage caused by scaring kids with an eternity of torment if they look at a girl (or vice versa). That doesn't mean I have any problems with aspects of religious faith or practice that don't cause harm. Each to his own, apart from that, and I'll stick with Thor and Odin and horns of foaming mead and the occasional Party 7.
Google: how long does it take an animal to die halal
for example.
I do think that many people's antipathy to halal meat is a bit racist. Ask one what he knows about non-halal slaughter and it may be very little. That would make me suspect a xenophobic motive. Are people still opposed to halal meat if it is pre-stunned? I read many more stories against halal than shechita. Why? Muslims scholars have largely accepted pre-stunning but no Jewish scholars have.
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