TV licence for streaming.

[Foggie]

I use Freesat because we don't get the full # of channels. Just like every other government project, Freeview was never finished. The last few transmitters costing too much to upgrade. Bit like EV charging infrastructure and the NOT spots for mobile service being defunded this week.

I also read that the BBC are planning to decommission the Broadcast Infrastructure by the mid 2030's so everyone will need to stream TV by then. Don't know if Freesat is in that mix

As we move to the 30's, it does look like a digital device will be core to life and if you can't use one or afford one you will be excluded.

It also means that the NOT spots and bad broadband people will also be cut off.

 

[Chippy_Tea]

I may be in the minority but I’ll go out on a limb and say that I think the licence fee (which also covers much more than just the BBC) represents excellent value for money. I’ll go further and assert that the BBC still makes some of the worlds best factual programming, and while their news service is slower to report than modern online services, it is on the whole well supported and generally quite balanced.

I agree and there is no way we will stop paying if it means havimg to agree not to watch live BBC progs, SWMBO watches more TV on the BBC channels than any other but they could still give us the same content by agreeing to allow adverts and scrap the licence fee.

 

[samale]

It's simple, people should have the freedom of choice. I pay for other subscription services that My children use, Netflix and Disney plus.

 

[Kerby]

I agree and there is no way we will stop paying if it means havimg to agree not to watch live BBC progs, SWMBO watches more TV on the BBC channels than any other but they could still give us the same content by agreeing to allow adverts and scrap the licence fee.

Point taken. I can’t stand advertising and the crass Americanisation of British television, I find adverts targeting children particularly appalling and am happy pay to have quality programming free from them. Sadly I can’t afford to do it for each and every service.

 

[Kerby]

I also think it’s important to have at least one national media outlet free from commercial influence. Ideally I’d see free TV licences for everyone with an income below £X subsidised by the rest of us to ensure access to quality factual and educational programming was available to all.

 

[jof]

I also think it’s important to have at least one national media outlet free from commercial influence.

...

access to quality factual and educational programming was available to all.

And there lies the problem.
To me it seems the beeb are making less and less of this.
Leave the soaps/sports/quiz shows to the commercial channels.

Give us drama/comedy/entertainment & even education.

Also it's only OK to repeat the good stuff, not the rubbish

 

[Clint]

Here's a question....
Could you do without telly?
I got Sky multi room (waste of money)hardly ever use the living room or watch tv in bed,Netflix and Disney,kids use the last two.
I watch the odd film,will not watch the news as it's mostly lies. As for anything else I like documentaries mainly history.
Could I ditch the lot...YES!
Telly is there to brain wash us and keep us indoors at night.

 

[Appleton Brews]

The only reason the BBC exists is because it is the Governments mouth piece , look at the scandel's down the years
the BS corporation should be shut down full stop, it is full of wokey people the biggest one is Fiona Bruce and that Styte fella

Which government Tories or Labour. For me they are too neutral and try to put both sides of an argument to avoid being accused of bias. But that’s just the news not the whole of the BBC.

 

[Rodcx500z]

I am in this boat Clint, i mostly watch discovery and national geographic, and yacht vids on yt sailing round the world on 36-40 foot boats is grate fun and very scary at times

 

[Clint]

THE government...not the puppets who sit in the seat now and then...

 

[Clint]

I am in this boat Clint, i mostly watch discovery and national geographic, and yacht vids on yt sailing round the world on 36-40 foot boats is grate fun and very scary at times

Crikey I had a bout of seasick then all those boats! I seen an ocean going catamaran in Porthmadog a few years ago. Really smart thing. I also seen a Portuguese navy gun boat in the Quay in Deganwy that had been modified to look like a WW2 German gun boat that had been used in films. Looked a bit ominous parked up!

 

[Laner]

I also think it’s important to have at least one national media outlet free from commercial influence. Ideally I’d see free TV licences for everyone with an income below £X subsidised by the rest of us to ensure access to quality factual and educational programming was available to all.

How about a National Media outlet free from political influence? Surely much more important?

Your previous post “quality programming”, are you suggesting the BBC provide this? Before answering this think of Eastenders, strictly come dancing ( some people can actually do that ), The One show etc etc. The BBC do provide some quality but the % is diminishing, and the news programming is as biased as GBnews and TalkTV just at opposing ends of the spectrum.

They admit they cannot provide the quality they want to due to the economics of it, so to what level of £’s would you be willing to pay for yourself and others?

IMO if we are to retain the licence then it should be free to Pensioners with all others paying the fee.

 

[Kerby]

Which government Tories or Labour. For me they are too neutral and try to put both sides of an argument to avoid being accused of bias. But that’s just the news not the whole of the BBC.

The news should be neutral, reporting the facts and leaving viewers to draw a conclusion.

 

[Kerby]

How about a National Media outlet free from political influence? Surely much more important?

Your previous post “quality programming”, are you suggesting the BBC provide this? Before answering this think of Eastenders, strictly come dancing ( some people can actually do that ), The One show etc etc. The BBC do provide some quality but the % is diminishing, and the news programming is as biased as GBnews and TalkTV just at opposing ends of the spectrum.

They admit they cannot provide the quality they want to due to the economics of it, so to what level of £’s would you be willing to pay for yourself and others?

IMO if we are to retain the licence then it should be free to Pensioners with all others paying the fee.

Pensioners? Nope.

“Of the 12.6 million people in the UK who receive the state pension, 1.1 million have a private pension pot over £1m, according to the most recent Wealth and Assets Survey from the Office for National Statistics. The least wealthy people in this group will have enough to retire at 65 and be paid £60,000 a year for the rest of their lives.”

New Statesman

https://www.newstatesman.com/politi...ritain-is-bankrupt-now-time-raid-pension-fund

 

[DocAnna]

Which government Tories or Labour. For me they are too neutral and try to put both sides of an argument to avoid being accused of bias. But that’s just the news not the whole of the BBC.

From my perspective this is a significant problem for the BBC and they've recognised it in the past. By trying to stay neutral they try to give 'both sides' air time and able to put their argument. This has in the past meant that climate change denial and claims about autism from vaccines, have been given considerable broadcast platform in the aim to be neutral. This is a whole news system problem, not just the BBC.

 

[Rodcx500z]

The least wealthy people in this group will have enough to retire at 65 and be paid £60,000 a year for the rest of their lives.”

Bloody fanstastic and all boomers who knew how to graft and save

 

[Rodcx500z]

Pensioners? Nope.

“Of the 12.6 million people in the UK who receive the state pension, 1.1 million have a private pension pot over £1m, according to the most recent Wealth and Assets Survey from the Office for National Statistics. The least wealthy people in this group will have enough to retire at 65 and be paid £60,000 a year for the rest of their lives.”

New Statesman

https://www.newstatesman.com/politi...ritain-is-bankrupt-now-time-raid-pension-fund

No government will go anywhere this it is political suicide, after all, all we did was follow advice given by the governments of the day save for your retirement so we did and are now reaping the rewards and enjoying life, this just sounds like a load of sour grapes by a government who is up s--t creek with no money to pay for problems of their own creation, right i will stop here as i might finish up having a proper rant, enjoy the rest of your day have a beer and relax and stop berating good people of this Country who were once it's backbone a trait that is sadly lacking these days

 

[Laner]

Pensioners? Nope.

“Of the 12.6 million people in the UK who receive the state pension, 1.1 million have a private pension pot over £1m, according to the most recent Wealth and Assets Survey from the Office for National Statistics. The least wealthy people in this group will have enough to retire at 65 and be paid £60,000 a year for the rest of their lives.”

New Statesman

https://www.newstatesman.com/politi...ritain-is-bankrupt-now-time-raid-pension-fund

My error, I should have written those on State Pension only income.

 

[Chippy_Tea]

Your previous post “quality programming”, are you suggesting the BBC provide this? Before answering this think of Eastenders, strictly come dancing ( some people can actually do that ), The One show etc etc. The BBC do provide some quality but the % is diminishing,

Eastenders and strictly come dancing are garbage i watched the first of doth then never watched either again, why should i have to pay for something i do not like so others can watch it?

 

[Stu]

Sorry, but as a confirmed Centrist, the BBC is about as fair as it gets.

Before you argue what a Centrist is, if you think the BBC is more than slightly left biased (evidence below), then you're right wing.
If you think that people should be removed from the country because of their place of birth, then you're right wing.
If you think that people should be removed because they're not from here and speak a different language or worship a different God, you're right wing.
If you think that people shouldn't be allowed to be Gay, or should be treated differently or they're wrong, you're right wing.

I appreciate this isn't a popular opinion. The fact that the Left think that the BBC was a Tory mouthpiece with usually a top Lord at the top and the Right think that the BBC is wokey says everything.

One of the facts is, without the BBC, Brexit would have almost not happened. Everyone thought that it was a done deal that no-one would vote for this kind of policy (in the same way that Scotland Independence was a resounding "No")

Yet the BBC then started all kinds of programming which questioned the whole balance and arguably tipped it. They even acknowledge this.

As someone else pointed out, the BBC are slow. And quite often it's because they wait for the facts to become clear before reporting things.
G Beebies, for instance, did no fact checking before reporting that the Southport killer was an illegal refugee, straight off a boat.

But don't let your prejudice take over (And stop the lazy tropes about Huw Edwards and Saville - it's got knack all to do with reporting the news fairly).

"People" overall think that the BBC swings centre-left.
https://www.allsides.com/news-source/bbc-news-media-bias

And AdFonte (who are the people that know), say it's the most reliable media we have in the UK in terms of factual reporting.

I'll put this into context. Right wing - GB News

Bizarrely, we don't really have far left media in the UK. Even stuff like the Morning Star, which is communist, has high credibility in what it publishes, even if it's generally left-wing stories.