TImoth Taylor Landlord (First all grain brew)

[WM7793]

Hi everyone, I am nearly finished building the control panel and my first ever all grain brew is an attempt at Timoth Taylors (not the bottled version). I have bought the book by Graham Wheeler and I am wondering if anybody can answer the following questions on this recipe.

Q1 Has anybody brewed to his recipe? and how does it compare to the real thing?

Q2 Are the more experienced brewers been able to develop this recipe to better emulate this ale? and what would be needed to do this?, whether it's different ratios of ingredients, times etc.

Q3 There is no mention of yeasts. What is the yeast used, and is there an alternative.

I intend to bottle the ale.

Any tips or information that the more experienced members could pass on, would be very much appreciated on my first brew.

Best regards,
WM7793

 

[andyakameatloaf]

Someone more knowledgeable than me will be along shortly, I'm sure. I don't have any tips for the recipe, however I do know that there is apparently a commercial yeast available on the market to home brewers that is supposed to be pretty much identical to the strain used by TT brewery. Can't remember what it's called, but it's worth looking into. Sorry I couldn't be more helpful.

 

[andyd]

Hi

To answer your questions:

1. Yes, it turned out a very pleasant beer that was not dissimilar to the real thing.
2. I've made a few variations on the theme but not really to try to get closer to the real thing, more as a base for experimenting with my own recipes. I've also seen a few variations on this forum I think, if you search on TTL or Timothy Taylor you might find some of these.
3. I've used SA04 or Nottingham I'm sure but as andyakameatloaf says there is a liquid yeast that is allegedly the same strain as the brewery. A quick google suggests this is Wyeast 1469 but you might want to check.

Depending on how comfortable you are with the AG process, I would suggest you stick with the GW recipe and a dry yeast for your first AG, concentrate on the process. You will make good beer anyway and you can worry about refining the recipe in a future brew. Good luck with it anyway :)

Cheers

Andy

 

[Fil]

I too have followed the GW TTL recipe, tho i miss out the small quantity of black malt. (keep forgetting it..) and its a grand brew without
Its a Very good brew, i use the salsafe s-04 yeast for it.

its the best version of that popular brew i have attempted, personally i wasnt impressed with the WHS ttl AG-kit, but it wasnt me best brewday whan i used that.

brew it drink it and if you think it needs improving, let your own taste lead you.

 

[Baldbrewer]

+1 to Andy's comment ;
For your 1st AG , don't worry about water treatment.
Stick to a nice simple recipe TTL iS ideal or a smash (Single Malt And Single Hop)
Use a reliable yeast such as Sa04 or danstar Nottingham. Don't worry about rehydrating just sprinkle.
try and remember the 15 mins of boil time left addition of Irish moss or 1/3rd
Protoflac tablet.
When the beer is in the FV don't keep lifting the lid, have trust in the yeast!

If possible and funds allow the greatest improvement in your brewing will be a temp controlled fermenting fridge. Doesn't matter if you BIAB or 3 vessel,etc the yeast will thank you for a nice stable temp.

Above all else try and enjoy the day, try and make notes and take photos this all helps during your reflection on the day and your inevitable write up on here
All us AG guys have been in your shoes so don't be afraid to ask questions no matter how silly they may seem to you.
When you get to drink this 1st AG brew, be proud because you made it and it only gets better from here.
Good luck and happy brewing :

 

[critch]

did it years ago, one of my first ag's too :thumb: it was grand, shame about the crappy hops that were available to H.B.ers in the early 90's!

i used nottingham as it was all i could get at the time!

 

[LeithR]

I brewed a 19L TTL batch back in June this year. The brewing went well and ended up with 19L at 1050 which I liquored back to get 1046, the FG I ended up with was 1010 which is lower than expected. I used SO-4 yeast. I still have a few bottles of it in the shed and I am enjoying it.

 

[Pinchy]

Would anyone care to post the recipe? I'd like to do this as my 2nd AG brew!

Cheers :thumb:

 

[LeithR]

Pinchy, I think that would infringe Graham W's copyright. His book is readily available on Amazon and doesnt cost much I think I spend £3 or there abouts on it. You might also want to check out the Recipes section on the forum, there may be something on there.

 

[Kevin Wood]

I also brewed this earlier in the year and it was a very nice pint indeed. I used Nottingham yeast, if memory serves.

Without having the two beers side by side I wouldn't be able to say if it was authentic. If anything, mine came out slightly darker in colour and, without using the same yeast, I'm sure there were some differences in flavour. It was and remains a nice brew, regardless, and I'd agree that it's as good as any to pop your AG cherry.

The beauty of AG brewing is that you can tweak recipes in so many ways, so, rather than worry too much about its' authenticity, just have a go. You can then refine the recipe to follow your own preferences in subsequent brews. :thumb:

 

[Pinchy]

Pinchy, I think that would infringe Graham W's copyright. His book is readily available on Amazon and doesnt cost much I think I spend £3 or there abouts on it. You might also want to check out the Recipes section on the forum, there may be something on there.

Fair point! :thumb:.... Guess i'll have to stop being tight and go for it

 

[LeithR]

Hope you are not offended, Tight in my book is admirable, I try to spend as little as possible brewing as long as it doesn't effect the quality.

 

[Midlife]

Certainly is a popular beer!! Im not an AG brewer yet, but would love to know how to get close to it with an extract.

Cheers

Doug

 

[Baldbrewer]

Try this on Jims: http://www.jimsbeerkit.co.uk/forum/view ... =3&t=50442 :

 

[WM7793]

Many thanks for your contributions everybody.

Hi Baldbrewer, just a question on the beer fridge. I am on the lookout for the exact thing. I have a heat pad which I currently use for the Muntons kits etc, I was wondering if this would be suitable for the "heating" of the fermenter in the fridge.

It is only 20W however. I am aware that many people use a oil filled heater ie 60W to maintain the temperature. If it is not ideal, I will get a suitable one. I intend to control the fridge with a STC 1000.

Best regards,
WM7793

 

[WM7793]

Oh I forgot to ask.

Where does the forum members tend to purchase their ingredients?

Best regareds,
WM7793

 

[PD]

this is type of tubular heater you want for a fridge...a 12 inch one is sufficient

http://www.cnmonline.co.uk/tubular-heating-c-213.html

 

[dennisking]

Oh I forgot to ask.

Where does the forum members tend to purchase their ingredients?

Best regareds,
WM7793

All our sponsors, tried and tested.
I have brewed the Graham Wheeler version a few times and it's very good.

 

[WM7793]

Thanks again gents for all your help.

Very much appreciated.

Best regards,

WM7793

 

[Fil]

The malt miller, tell him u want it for biab and your batch will be ground to your needs, ever want it ground especially fine or course, just ask.. cant beat the service.