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Back in the day when United and Liverpool were winning everything they had a mountain of cash to spend to keep them at the top and too keep the money rolling in (no financial fair play back then) hardly a level playing field.
We have proved the point if you can afford the best players it will bring success.
Would i swap where we are today for the good old days wondering when playing in the second or third division if we would ever get back to the top flight, hell no.
I was there when we were s**t!
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Great day for the tension yesterday at the top and the bottom - a Bookies Delight/Nightmare!
I'm probably going to get a whole of abuse though for my next comment... I was surprised that my own team MU managed to finish 6th. For some of the effort some of the players put into it - below BHA would have been a more apt position (not taking anything away from BHA who had a great season). Sadly I think some of the players who were simply wonderful over the past two years were simply woeful this year. They should keep DeGea (their most consistent player) and completely rebuild defence and midfield and rethink the attacking options.
I'm probably going to get a whole of abuse though for my next comment... I was surprised that my own team MU managed to finish 6th. For some of the effort some of the players put into it - below BHA would have been a more apt position (not taking anything away from BHA who had a great season). Sadly I think some of the players who were simply wonderful over the past two years were simply woeful this year. They should keep DeGea (their most consistent player) and completely rebuild defence and midfield and rethink the attacking options.
This makes interesting reading i wasn't aware United are the third highest spending club behind city and Chelsea.
Manchester United spending since last trophy
2017/18 season: £178.56million
2018/19 season: £74.43million
2019/20 season: £204.1million
2020/21 season: £75.42million
Total: £532.51million
Of the Premier League’s so-called ‘big six’ clubs, United have spent the third most, behind Manchester City (£665.92m) and Chelsea (£685.35m).
However, City have won eight major trophies in that time, including three Premier League titles, while Chelsea have an FA Cup and Europa League crown to their name.
What will sting the most is that they’ve spent over £100m more than Liverpool (£404.22m), who won the Premier League and Champions League in that time.
Even Arsenal, who are arguably not considered a rival club any more, have won more (FA Cup) and spent less (£430.57m) than Man United.
Tottenham are the only ‘big six’ club not to have won a trophy, but have spent almost £200m less (£344.25m).
https://talksport.com/football/8871...liverpool-man-city-chelsea-arsenal-tottenham/
Manchester United spending since last trophy
2017/18 season: £178.56million
2018/19 season: £74.43million
2019/20 season: £204.1million
2020/21 season: £75.42million
Total: £532.51million
Of the Premier League’s so-called ‘big six’ clubs, United have spent the third most, behind Manchester City (£665.92m) and Chelsea (£685.35m).
However, City have won eight major trophies in that time, including three Premier League titles, while Chelsea have an FA Cup and Europa League crown to their name.
What will sting the most is that they’ve spent over £100m more than Liverpool (£404.22m), who won the Premier League and Champions League in that time.
Even Arsenal, who are arguably not considered a rival club any more, have won more (FA Cup) and spent less (£430.57m) than Man United.
Tottenham are the only ‘big six’ club not to have won a trophy, but have spent almost £200m less (£344.25m).
https://talksport.com/football/8871...liverpool-man-city-chelsea-arsenal-tottenham/
I wonder if a lot of the problems at united stem from the huge boots the new managers had to try to fill after Ferguson retired.
(i don't watch other teams so this is just me thinking outload)
Look what our lot did to Mancini who i thought was a decent manager has the same happened at united
"There is hardly a player in the dressing room who has any time for Mancini. The place is a complete mess," a City source is quoted as saying in The Sun. "There are times when he tries to be a hard man but no one takes any notice.
"Team spirit is falling apart because there is no respect for the manager and some players are even guessing when he could go. They don't know who they want in, they just want Mancini out."
The Sun 2010
| Ralf Rangnick | 03 Dec, 2021 | Present |
| Michael Carrick | 21 Nov, 2021 | 03 Dec, 2021 |
| Ole Gunnar Solskjaer | 19 Dec, 2018 | 21 Nov, 2021 |
| Jose Mourinho | 27 May, 2016 | 18 Dec, 2018 |
| Louis van Gaal | 19 May, 2014 | 23 May, 2016 |
| Ryan Giggs | 22 Apr, 2014 | 19 May, 2014 |
| David Moyes | 19 May, 2013 | 22 Apr, 2014 |
| Alex Ferguson | 06 Nov, 1986 | 19 May, 2013 |
https://www.soccerbase.com/teams/team.sd?team_id=1724&teamTabs=managers
"a quantity of alcohol"--I bet.
Then the defense says "...as did a number of people." This is the "Well, other people were doing it too so it's not as bad." That is an embarrassing thing to say and worthy only of a four-year-old.
I'm not sure who regularly has the most criminal encroachments onto the pitch/field. It is an accepted/tolerated custom for college fans to storm the field by the thousands after a great victory. These don't normally result in violence since the people storming the field are on the same side.
Individually doing so during a contest, no matter the level, is highly frowned on. I'm guessing our penalties are not as severe as the one I read about above.
The solution to actually eliminating 99%-plus of the violence is a secret that is no secret. Our professional fans get loaded outside of the stadium for hours beforehand in a party-type atmosphere (tailgating) and then go into the stadium and continue to drink.
Would attendance be as high if alcohol were eliminated from pro sports here?
I don't like the idea of eliminating alcohol, particularly, because it's punishing the innocent as well.
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"I wonder if a lot of the problems at united stem from the huge boots the new managers had to try to fill after Ferguson retired.
(i don't watch other teams so this is just me thinking outload) "
I think you have a point there - I still think that Moyes was the right man for the job. Look what he did with an open minded team (Everton) - look what he has done with West Ham. Like Fergusson, a dour canny Scot and afraid of no one.
(i don't watch other teams so this is just me thinking outload) "
I think you have a point there - I still think that Moyes was the right man for the job. Look what he did with an open minded team (Everton) - look what he has done with West Ham. Like Fergusson, a dour canny Scot and afraid of no one.
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I don't think alcohol is the issue it's the handful of knuckle draggers who think this behaviour is acceptable and would do the same drink or no drink that ruin it for the rest, they need to stamp down on this now and any fan that goes on the pitch should be banned for 12 months but if violent permanently.
I don't think alcohol is the issue it's the handful of knuckle draggers who think this behaviour is acceptable and would do the same drink or no drink that ruin it for the rest, they need to stamp down on this now and any fan that goes on the pitch should be banned for 12 months but if violent permanently.
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BBC on Man United 
The BBC has apologised after a message appeared on the news channel saying "Manchester United are rubbish".
The text mistakenly popped up on the news ticker at the bottom of the screen during a tennis update just after 0930 on Tuesday.
Later in the morning, presenter Annita Mcveigh apologised to any Manchester United fans who may have been offended.
She said the mistake had occurred as someone was learning how to operate the ticker and was "writing random things".
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-61563153
The BBC has apologised after a message appeared on the news channel saying "Manchester United are rubbish".
The text mistakenly popped up on the news ticker at the bottom of the screen during a tennis update just after 0930 on Tuesday.
Later in the morning, presenter Annita Mcveigh apologised to any Manchester United fans who may have been offended.
She said the mistake had occurred as someone was learning how to operate the ticker and was "writing random things".
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-61563153
BBC on Man United
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The BBC has apologised after a message appeared on the news channel saying "Manchester United are rubbish".
The text mistakenly popped up on the news ticker at the bottom of the screen during a tennis update just after 0930 on Tuesday.
Later in the morning, presenter Annita Mcveigh apologised to any Manchester United fans who may have been offended.
She said the mistake had occurred as someone was learning how to operate the ticker and was "writing random things".
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-61563153
I mean, they had a point...
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I think this is a brilliant example of spending in football not equalling success. This is net spend so I think it is a better example of clubs running properly. The fact that United have a net spend higher than City is embarrassing considering they say City have only won due to spending more than them 
. Bayern and Liverpool have done well. Very surprised at the Chelsea figures!
. Bayern and Liverpool have done well. Very surprised at the Chelsea figures!
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Had to actually read up on Real Madrid. Amazing business that! Doesn't take into account wages though.
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Fans describe 'terrifying crush' and 'choking pepper spray' in shambolic scenes at the Champions League final.
@LFC demand an investigation after tear gas was fired at supporters.
@LFC demand an investigation after tear gas was fired at supporters.
Liverpool have called for a thorough investigation into the chaotic scenes outside the Stade de France which led to their Champions League final against Real Madrid being delayed by over 30 minutes as fans struggled to gain access.
How time flies 23 years since forest were last in the top flight.
Nottingham Forest ended their 23-year wait for Premier League football with a narrow win over Huddersfield Town in the Championship play-off final at Wembley - a victory worth about £170m.
Promotion back to the top flight caps a brilliant turnaround to their season, which had started with six defeats in seven.
Levi Colwill's own goal from James Garner's cross was the decisive moment.
Town improved after the break but struggled to create a big chance.
Their best opportunity saw Harry Toffolo booked for diving in the area by referee Jon Moss, officiating for the final time before retiring, and, although replays suggested Jack Colback had made some contact, it was not overturned by VAR.
Forest held out in the face of mounting pressure to spark scenes of jubilation and end their two-decade exile from the Premier League.
Steve Cooper has completely turned the club's fortunes around after taking over from the sacked Chris Hughton in September.
They were not at their best in their first appearance at Wembley in 30 years but the game's big moment went in their favour before the break.
The impressive James Garner, on loan from Manchester United, whipped in a dangerous ball from the inside left position and Town defender Colwill could only divert the ball past his goalkeeper Lee Nicholls under pressure from Ryan Yates.
The Terriers had more possession and carried more threat after half-time but could not force Brice Samba or his replacement Ethan Horvath into a save of note.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/61539298
Nottingham Forest ended their 23-year wait for Premier League football with a narrow win over Huddersfield Town in the Championship play-off final at Wembley - a victory worth about £170m.
Promotion back to the top flight caps a brilliant turnaround to their season, which had started with six defeats in seven.
Levi Colwill's own goal from James Garner's cross was the decisive moment.
Town improved after the break but struggled to create a big chance.
Their best opportunity saw Harry Toffolo booked for diving in the area by referee Jon Moss, officiating for the final time before retiring, and, although replays suggested Jack Colback had made some contact, it was not overturned by VAR.
Forest held out in the face of mounting pressure to spark scenes of jubilation and end their two-decade exile from the Premier League.
Steve Cooper has completely turned the club's fortunes around after taking over from the sacked Chris Hughton in September.
They were not at their best in their first appearance at Wembley in 30 years but the game's big moment went in their favour before the break.
The impressive James Garner, on loan from Manchester United, whipped in a dangerous ball from the inside left position and Town defender Colwill could only divert the ball past his goalkeeper Lee Nicholls under pressure from Ryan Yates.
The Terriers had more possession and carried more threat after half-time but could not force Brice Samba or his replacement Ethan Horvath into a save of note.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/61539298
It was a cracking day. Not a great match, but I don't care.
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