I just dont understand America
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An Ankoù
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You're the least panicky because you're in control of the situation, but see that those around you are not. I haven't been out since last weekend, but will be venturing down to the supermarket tomorrow. I shall put on a pair of gloves before entering and when I get home I shall strip off, chuck the lot in the washer and shower. Hair, beards and clothes must be a great trap for airborne infections.
An Ankoù
Landlord.
Indeed. That goes without saying. The packaged groceries and bottles stay in the carrier bags for 3 days before they're put away and the fruit and veg that won't last three days get washed. No lettuce or salad. packaged frozen gets dunked in mild bleach solution left to drain, dried and put away.
An Ankoù
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Well I only had three days self employed work this week and my van startermoter pack up Friday had this fixed as mot booked in for Monday so no food shop this week no wipes sanitizer or binbags. Its a joke for us I'm afraid and no way will we be self isolating like this.
the_quick
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i have packaged lots of beer from keg and put in boxes some kit beer I have done before. Will be taking this to work to help ale drinkers with closing of pubs - I work in school - we all have to come in on Monday.
Breweries around me trying to move sales of their canned/bottled product and offering free deliveries. Some pubs offer take away beer.
I wonder what happen to all the fresh food that closed restaurants/pubs had in stock - it could be given away to food banks and such.
Breweries around me trying to move sales of their canned/bottled product and offering free deliveries. Some pubs offer take away beer.
I wonder what happen to all the fresh food that closed restaurants/pubs had in stock - it could be given away to food banks and such.
An Ankoù
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We need to get organised. There's loads and loads of goodwill, but it needs organising to be safe and effective. Here in sunny Brittany, we're locked down, which means we're not allowed to visit neighbours and family on pain of fines and imprisonment - let alone pubs- so it's more difficult to share the love, but the most vulnerable are being looked after, by and large.
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Dutto
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I cannot verify the accuracy of these figures!
They were posted on a Skegness Facebook Page in response to the massive influx of tourists to Skegness yesterday. (The general consensus of opinion was to ask people to stay away from the town.)
IF they are correct (and the PM recently pointed out that the UK was two weeks behind Italy) then visiting Mum today should be a "No-no!"
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Congratulations to all those who chose to visit the coast today
What exactly is it you don’t understand?
They were posted on a Skegness Facebook Page in response to the massive influx of tourists to Skegness yesterday. (The general consensus of opinion was to ask people to stay away from the town.)
IF they are correct (and the PM recently pointed out that the UK was two weeks behind Italy) then visiting Mum today should be a "No-no!"
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Congratulations to all those who chose to visit the coast today
What exactly is it you don’t understand?
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In all honesty in this current climate, I do not think we should be posting data that cannot be verified. Otherwise it just perpetuates misinformation and we end up like Facebook and other social media platforms. If we need to present data, it should be from verified sources and linked to those sources with the applicable reference.
I spent the bulk of my formative years analysing data, and you can easily manipulate data for an agenda even with the same dataset.
This is not a dig, it’s just my opinion.
I spent the bulk of my formative years analysing data, and you can easily manipulate data for an agenda even with the same dataset.
This is not a dig, it’s just my opinion.
Another thing to consider is that this virus appears to affect the old more than the young. So any figures that aren't adjusted for relative population age distribution are misleading.
Dutto
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If you check out these BBC statistics and take a snapshot of the Italian information ...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-51235105
... you will find (as far as I can make out) that the information on the chart is reasonably accurate; but not verified because I don't know where the BBC got their information from.
I've now done my best to verify the information and to the best of my knowledge it seems to be accurate.
Never took is as a "dig".
Sorry, but I've often been to Italy (and actually worked for Foster Wheeler Italiana in Milan) and I've not seen a major difference between Italy and any other European country. Even our own PM praised the Italian Health Service a couple of days ago when he pointed out that the UK was only a couple of weeks behind Italy during this pandemic.
With regard to the "old v. young" situation the Head of the WHO put out a warning less than a couple of days ago to tell the young "The young should realise that they are not invulnerable and not immortal. They will catch the virus and need hospital attention.
Personally, I think it's time that the UK population starts taking this pandemic very seriously; especially those idiots at whom the Chart was aimed! i.e. The people who flocked to Skegness in defiance of all Government advice!
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-51235105
... you will find (as far as I can make out) that the information on the chart is reasonably accurate; but not verified because I don't know where the BBC got their information from.
I've now done my best to verify the information and to the best of my knowledge it seems to be accurate.
Never took is as a "dig".
Sorry, but I've often been to Italy (and actually worked for Foster Wheeler Italiana in Milan) and I've not seen a major difference between Italy and any other European country. Even our own PM praised the Italian Health Service a couple of days ago when he pointed out that the UK was only a couple of weeks behind Italy during this pandemic.
With regard to the "old v. young" situation the Head of the WHO put out a warning less than a couple of days ago to tell the young "The young should realise that they are not invulnerable and not immortal. They will catch the virus and need hospital attention.
Personally, I think it's time that the UK population starts taking this pandemic very seriously; especially those idiots at whom the Chart was aimed! i.e. The people who flocked to Skegness in defiance of all Government advice!
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The average age of people in Italy is also higher than ours as they keep harping on about the mediterranean diet and how long they live so one would think they are going to suffer with a higher death rate than ours who knows?
Here are reliable figures OneSub - Covid19 News Dashboard
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When people wont keep a distance make them.
Coronavirus: How to behave in an epidemic
The virus is exploiting our very humanity. We are social creatures, but this disease risks turning our natural instincts into a fatal weakness.
Our old routines and habits must be replaced with new customs and practices. We need to adjust to the etiquette of an epidemic.
So how should we behave? How can we be pro-social in a world where a comforting hand or a hug are considered anti-social or even reckless?
In normal times we look to calm anxiety and stress with the human touch. But these are not normal times. The human touch may be the enemy.
Every object we and others come into contact with may be a vector for the virus. The right thing to do is deny this cruel bug the chance to spread.
"This is the time in your lifetime whereby your action will save somebody's life," Prof Stephen Powis, medical director at NHS England, said on Saturday.
None of this comes naturally. It is not easy. We can only do what is possible and we will never know, but the simple act of washing your hands properly may actually save one, two, 50 or 10,000 lives. We should think of that as we sing at the sink.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51991566
Coronavirus: How to behave in an epidemic
The virus is exploiting our very humanity. We are social creatures, but this disease risks turning our natural instincts into a fatal weakness.
Our old routines and habits must be replaced with new customs and practices. We need to adjust to the etiquette of an epidemic.
So how should we behave? How can we be pro-social in a world where a comforting hand or a hug are considered anti-social or even reckless?
In normal times we look to calm anxiety and stress with the human touch. But these are not normal times. The human touch may be the enemy.
Every object we and others come into contact with may be a vector for the virus. The right thing to do is deny this cruel bug the chance to spread.
"This is the time in your lifetime whereby your action will save somebody's life," Prof Stephen Powis, medical director at NHS England, said on Saturday.
None of this comes naturally. It is not easy. We can only do what is possible and we will never know, but the simple act of washing your hands properly may actually save one, two, 50 or 10,000 lives. We should think of that as we sing at the sink.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51991566
MyQul
Chairman of the Bored
It's a lovely sunny spring day here in London...and huge amounts of my fellow Londoners are completely ignoring the advice/guidence to self isolate and/or stay the **** indoors. I cycled into work this morning (Im a community support worker). Plenty of cafes still open doing take away, loads of people on Tooting common; families out with bored kids, people jogging, I even say one of those group out door excercise classes that are so popular here in Londons parks when the weather turns mild. I saw a couple of pensioners with suitcases (possibly fleeing London to spread the virus elsewhere about the country) and I saw a quite disabled person being taken out for a walk in a wheelchair (the group homes in my work's service are in virtual lockdown )
We are SO headed for a butchers bill similar to Italy's
We are SO headed for a butchers bill similar to Italy's
An Ankoù
Landlord.
The easiest approach to this is to say to myself "I'm infected and infectious. How many others am I prepared to infect".
