Supermarket Juice Wine How To guide and Recipes.

[DarthElvira]

Hello Chippy,
I'm new to the forum, and you have given me advise already regarding making wine from store juices. I like white wine preferably but I'm trying to get into my reds and rose.
Anyway, I've worked out from your link of recipes that you obviously need a grape juice of some sort otherwise it won't be wine. Well I've been hunting in all my local stores and can find a great selection of different juices. Everything except wgj or rgj, they are like rocking horse ****!

I eventually found some red grape juice and some purple grape juice and I picked up two flavoured juices (tropicana orange and mango & garden multivitamin with a mix of : pineapple, mango, orange, pear, grape, banana) can you tell me what if any of these will work together or at least tell me what goes best with rgj and grape juice as there seems to be a supply of these at my local sainsburys.

Thank you

Darth

 

[Chippy_Tea]

can you tell me what if any of these will work together or at least tell me what goes best with rgj and grape juice as there seems to be a supply of these at my local sainsburys.

Its really down to personal preference, some members have made pineapple and red grape juice (RGJ) or white grape juice (WGJ) some liked it others hated it, its the same with the original orange WOW i made it once was not keen and have never made it again but others like it.

I mainly make RGJ and apple juice as its cheap and there is always plenty in the supermarket, when i first started i used to make a lot of WGJ and pomegranate or WGJ and cranberry juice, these were great but you have to use two cartons to one of WGJ as they are below 50% juice, as i am a tight barsteward i found the RGJ & apple juice combination tasted great and its probably the cheapest wine you can make.

Having said that i have recently started this mixed bunch -

1 x Red grape juice and Apple.

1 x White grape juice and apple/raspberry.

2 x White grape juice and apple/pear (i haven't tried this before so fingers crossed)

 

[DarthElvira]

Thanks chippy,
It looks like I'll have my own experimental wine to add to the thread in a couple of weeks.

Thanks again

Darth

 

[Chippy_Tea]

OK :thumb:

 

[steviec_lj]

The pressed white grape juice I used contained 17.2g of sugar per 100ml, multiply by 10 for a litre, is a total sugar content of 172g per litre.



The orange juice with bits I used contained 11g of sugar per 100ml, so again multiply by 10 for a litre, gives a total sugar content of 110g of sugar per litre.



Adding the two together gives a sugar content of 282g in 2litres of juice.



We're going for something around 12% in the end, which requires 1064g of sugar in 4.5litres, so 1065 minus 282 gives a required addition of 782g of sugar.

 

[Chippy_Tea]

I tend to round up as my cheap scales are hard to read, if i need 780g i make it 800g if i need 730g i go for 750g.

 

[pookiehair]

Ah that's helpful and interesting to know about how to work out the amount of sugar to add. Very well explained too :-P
I suppose if you are going to top up the DJs with juice rather than water then this juice too has to be taken into account.

 

[Chippy_Tea]

You will be adding less than half a litre so only around 50g of sugar and if you do this after stabilising it will not change the % ABV that much.

 

[Joeyriles]

I just added the stabiliser to my wine last night. I opened the tub and (foolishly) went to sniff it. When I'd recovered and picked myself back up off of the floor, I then siphoned off a glass of wine and added the stabiliser to it before then tipping the rest of the concoction back into the DJ.

Now, I am attempting to get the bugger to clear. I'm planning on racking off to another DJ and then crash cooling it in my shed. Any words of advice?

 

[Chippy_Tea]

Did you degas it?

 

[Joeyriles]

I've been trying, Chippy. I don't own a drill so your previous (and very helpful) post about making a de-gasser from a coathanger is a bit moot. I've been shaking it and placing my hand over the top but something tells me this won't be enough. I've heard you can use a vacuum cleaner nozzle but this idea scares me!

 

[Chippy_Tea]

I may have mentioned it is possible to use a vacuum but I would not advise it, the shake ,remove hand, shake, remove hand method does work but it takes a bit more time and a lot more effort than the wand method, some members don't bother too much about it and just do it a little., it will clear in time it just takes longer if you don't get most of the gas out.

 

[uksoundz]

Hi guys my wow has been fermenting for 16 days now, and I'm now getting a bubble in the airlock roughly once every 2 minutes 40 seconds.
Should I rack over a campden tablet yet?

 

[Chippy_Tea]

Not yet, give it another week then rack it, the yeast needs time to clean up after itself failure to giver it the extra time could leave you with a wine that will give you a bad headache and worse bad guts.

I have in the past stopped mine at 5 days (after fermentation has stopped) without problem but i now have several DJ's on the go all the time so don't have to rush new ones and risk it.

 

[Joeyriles]

This is all racked, de-gassed (as far as one man and his palm can manage...stop thinking filthy stuff, gents) and in my shed.

The finings have gone in and now I play the waiting game. It's starting to get pretty bloody cold at night, I wonder how this will help the clearing phase.

 

[Chippy_Tea]

It will clear faster being in a cool place, which fining did you use?

 

[Joeyriles]

Chitosan. I have, however, got two sachets of Vin Bright in reserve just in case it doesn't work. :thumb:

 

[Joeyriles]

Hmmmm. The Wilko elderflower wine kit is completely clear (after 24 hours) but my WOW is still murky (you can see the silhouette of my hand on the other side of the DJ) after 3 days. Leave for longer or crack out the Vin Bright?

 

[Chippy_Tea]

I would leave it it will clear eventually, if you can get kwik clear get some it's the fastest I have used.

 

[pookiehair]

Im about to rack my WOW wine. I started it 16 days ago. It has stopped bubbling in the airlock for nearly a week now.
I now have to syphon into clean DJ over a crushed camden tablet - is that right?
Do I add anything else at this stage?
Im not sure when /or if /I should add potasium sorbate and finings.
Can someone advise please the exact times to add further things and how long to leave in between?
Many thanks.