Sit Vac: Home Secretary

[Ken L]

I am listening to it on the radio as I type and they are saying the P.M should have resigned, will she?

She'll be lucky to survive tomorrow without the 1922 committee initiating a vote of no confidence.
Nothing to do with the Windrush BTW.

 

[Ken L]

Hi!
I disagree; I believe that the majority of Britons do not support a tougher immigration policy.

I reject your reality and instead choose actual reality.

 

[MyQul]

yep - citing virtue signalling is just a form of signalling in itself. The individual is trying to claim a moral or intellectual superiority by kneecapping someone else's view point, simply by saying the words "virtue signalling". It's brilliant and very clever.

Does that mean that you're signalling a form of signalling, signalling virtue signalling then? :p

 

[Pope]

The Prime Minister has issued a 3 line whip to vote against the opposition's motion to publicise internal communications regarding the Windrush scandal.

Her policy as Home Secretary has led to British citizens losing jobs, denied healthcare, receiving threatening letters, being detained without trial and wrongfully deported. To deny this motion is shameful and an act of cowardice.

She'll get away with it though:

• Amber Rudd has been used as the fall guy
• The Eurosceptics in the Conservative Party are worried that a Europhile will become leader
• The Europhiles in the Conservative Party are worried that a hard-line Eurosceptic (i.e. Jacob Rees-Mogg) will become leader
• Sections of the right wing media (including but not exclusive to the Daily Mail and The Sun) see her as attempting to achieve the hardest Brexit as possible, so will back her to the hilt
• "yeah, yeah but what about Labour/Jeremy Corbyn"

 

[Ken L]

"Her policy as Home Secretary has led to British citizens losing jobs, denied healthcare, receiving threatening letters, being detained without trial and wrongfully deported"

Are you sure?
Had they applied for and been granted British citizenship at some time in the last 60 years then you could reasonably call them "British citizens".
If they haven't bothered to apply for citizenship then they're not.

If they're not, any trouble with obtaining healthcare, getting cleared for jobs that require citizenship or applying for re-entry to the country after a trip to the Caribbean (you will note that that implies that they have the wherewithal to maintain citizenship and a passport relating to a foreign country) is their own stupid fault.

 

[Ken L]

I reject your reality and instead choose actual reality.

Just in case Bigcol49 thinks that's a nasty biased website, try this instead.

 

[Saisonator]

The Prime Minister has issued a 3 line whip to vote against the opposition's motion to publicise internal communications regarding the Windrush scandal.

Her policy as Home Secretary has led to British citizens losing jobs, denied healthcare, receiving threatening letters, being detained without trial and wrongfully deported. To deny this motion is shameful and an act of cowardice.

She'll get away with it though:

• Amber Rudd has been used as the fall guy
• The Eurosceptics in the Conservative Party are worried that a Europhile will become leader
• The Europhiles in the Conservative Party are worried that a hard-line Eurosceptic (i.e. Jacob Rees-Mogg) will become leader
• Sections of the right wing media (including but not exclusive to the Daily Mail and The Sun) see her as attempting to achieve the hardest Brexit as possible, so will back her to the hilt
• "yeah, yeah but what about Labour/Jeremy Corbyn"

Citizenship will be fast tracked without fees and compensation has been promised.
Labour are just doing what the opposition always do, try and extract as much political capital as possible from a negative situation.

 

[ElvisIsBeer]

or holding the government to account

 

[Oneiroi]

Also I think ID cards for all are the way forward, if you get stopped have no ID card and the immigration computer tells the police you should have left the country then it’s on the plane and home.

If you have no ID card how will the computer know you should have left the country [emoji849]


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[Oneiroi]

"Her policy as Home Secretary has led to British citizens losing jobs, denied healthcare, receiving threatening letters, being detained without trial and wrongfully deported"

Are you sure?
Had they applied for and been granted British citizenship at some time in the last 60 years then you could reasonably call them "British citizens".
If they haven't bothered to apply for citizenship then they're not.

If they're not, any trouble with obtaining healthcare, getting cleared for jobs that require citizenship or applying for re-entry to the country after a trip to the Caribbean (you will note that that implies that they have the wherewithal to maintain citizenship and a passport relating to a foreign country) is their own stupid fault.

You know you can have a British passport without having British citizenship right?


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[Ken L]

You know you can have a British passport without having British citizenship right?


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You can have a travel document....

But tell me, where did I mention passports?

 

[Saisonator]

If you have no ID card how will the computer know you should have left the country [emoji849]


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Because if you entered the country with a passport the computer will have registered you and the authorities will know if you should be here.
If you have not entered with a passport and have no ID card then you will be an illegal alien and no status to be here.

 

[Chippy_Tea]

I have removed several posts from late last night and early this morning those that read them will know why and this is now closed.