Saison attempt

[An Ankoù]

I notice that WHC Farmhouse Vibes is STA 1 positive

So is the Wallonia.

So expect an FG around 1000 plus or minus a couple of points and don't bottle it until you;re well and truly there. Or, use champagne (cava,prosecco, spumante) bottles.

 

[ChrisD123]

So expect an FG around 1000 plus or minus a couple of points and don't bottle it until you;re well and truly there. Or, use champagne (cava,prosecco, spumante) bottles.

Forewarned is forearmed...thank you....everyday is a schoolday..thats what i love about this forum

 

[An Ankoù]

I would strip it back and go with a basic grain bill

4kg pilsner
500g wheat

20g noble hops @60mins
20g Mandarina@10mins + orange peel
30g Mandarina@ flameout

Not sure if you have temp control. If you do start low at 18 and slowly step it up to 24

Looks good to me, but why would you restrain the temperature? I'd let it work it;s way up towards 30C.

 

[samale]

Looks good to me, but why would you restrain the temperature? I'd let it work it;s way up towards 30C.

Depending on the yeast strain. I normally use french Saison yeast. That temp gets Me down close to zero or 1.002. what I like about that yeast it leaves some body in the beer. The Du Pont strain behaves completely different.

 

[SMP Brewery]

We aren’t helping here too much info as this was one of my favourite malt bills

 

[SMP Brewery]

At the OP brew one and go from there

 

[An Ankoù]

At the OP brew one and go from there

But where? It's like brewing an ale: Old Thumper or Tetley's. The number of variations isn't as high, but the differences are probably greater.
But yeah, tight got to start somewhere.

 

[Cwrw666]

I've used cml walonia a few times and fg has always been 1008.

 

[ChrisD123]

I've used cml walonia a few times and fg has always been 1008.

Thank you

 

[Sadfield]

Saison should be pale, refreshing, well attenuated, bitter (or sour), but most of all, rustic.

The grain bill is great, add some noble hops at the start and end of the boil. And leave the spices in the spice rack. Job done.

 

[Sadfield]

https://www.youtube.com/live/S69gDcJGSyc?si=bciZWTjH1IOGa7f8

 

[ChrisD123]

https://www.youtube.com/live/S69gDcJGSyc?si=bciZWTjH1IOGa7f8

Thanks for this

 

[Sadfield]

Here's another one. I love this beer.

 

[samale]

Here's another one. I love this beer.

Love his beers

 

[Twopan]

The Malt Miller sell a very good allgrain kit for the Jon Finch Saison recipe at £24. I have made it successfully several times. You can add the zest of an orange. Yeast is Mangrove Jack Saison. It will go down to c. 1 002. Mine comes out at 5.5% on a 23 litre BIAB boil and 19 litres bottled. https://www.themaltmiller.co.uk/product/saison-jon-finch/

 

[Twostage]

I’m in the keep it simple camp. I don’t have access to my laptop with my saison recipes but I’m fairly sure I make them as a SMASH.

 

[Sadfield]

I SMaSH it when using a hop not typically European, and never anything Piney.

Otherwise, my standard grist is rustic, with

Extra Pale 75%
Munich 10%
3x5% from a selection of malted or unmalted, wheat, rye, oats, maize, rice, buckwheat and when I find some, spelt.

Doing both gets too confused, IMO.

 

[Cwrw666]

To be honest if you're using a saison yeast then the grain bill doesn't really matter much. It's going to taste like saison.
I did a brown ale once and used a saison yeast. Just tasted like saison.

 

[Keruso]

Never had a Saison until the brew and swap, it’s now one of my favourite styles, from the few I’ve brewed there is no need for additional ingredients the yeast does it all.
My favourite combination is Saaz and Sorachi ace, the current one I have is Styrian Dragon and Citra which again I like, just go with what hops you like, it’ll be great.

I've added a handful of Kaffir Lime Leaves at 5min left in the boil, along with using Sorachi Ace, was a great beer, finishes real dry with Saison yeast.

 

[Leon103]

I've added a handful of Kaffir Lime Leaves at 5min left in the boil, along with using Sorachi Ace, was a great beer, finishes real dry with Saison yeast.

Sounds like my cup of tea. Where did you get the leaves?