Retirement (Thatcher)

[Chippy_Tea]

Foxy for prime minister
I wish life was as simple as you make out but back down here on earth were I live most people are surviving.

Small edit -
Down here on earth were I live most people are only just surviving.

 

[Dutto]

Lol wow you guys got a lot of love for Thatcher

???? Maggie (aka The *****) doesn't have many friends in this house!

We are still living with the legacy that her dogma forced upon us by means of lies and deceit. If you take a serious look at the Nationalised Industries that The ***** privatised you will see that:

1. EVERY single Nationalised Industry made a profit BEFORE they were privatised.
2. The PROFITS from these Industries were paid to the Exchequer NOT to investors.
3. The MAJORITY of shares were NOT sold to the General Public.

This is why companies such as Anglain Water is predominantly owned by an Australian Pension Fund, a Canadian Pension Fund and a London Based Investment Company and NOT by the General Pubic.


BTW, another one of The *****'s legacies can be seen when you drive down some of the Motorways in the UK!

At the same time that a company won a lot of contracts to build the slow-lane of a motorway using a lot less hardcore (which is how they managed to win the contacts) The ***** authorised heavyweight EU lorries to use our roads.

So, the next time you drive down a Motorway that has the distinctive "U" shaped runnels in the "Slow Lane" think "Thank you *****!" and hope that they erect s statue to her for what she managed to do to the UK before her own Party threw her out and before she went totally Gaga!

 

[Mr_S_Jerusalem]

Perhaps I should’ve written (sarcasm) at the end of my sentence....

I used to have a boss who hated her. He told me she was one of the few people he wouldn’t piss on if she was on fire.
He was so angry with her after she was in power he refused to vote again. Said it was a complete waste of time.

 

[Chippy_Tea]

Not a big Maggie fan then Dutto

 

[foxy]

A strong leader is better for a country than a weak one, sometimes tough decisions have to be made, a weak person won't make them. Because they make tough decisions they are unpopular.
Would the world be different today if Churchill hadn't taken over from Chamberlain?

Foxy for prime minister
I wish life was as simple as you make out but back down here on earth were I live most people are only just surviving.

I think life is simple, you are only going to get back what you put in.

 

[pms67]

A strong leader is better for a country than a weak one, sometimes tough decisions have to be made, a weak person won't make them. Because they make tough decisions they are unpopular.
Would the world be different today if Churchill hadn't taken over from Chamberlain?


I think life is simple, you are only going to get back what you put in.

Thatcher was a class one *****, let’s not confuse that with a strong leader

 

[Brianbrewed]

J

A strong leader is better for a country than a weak one

Do you have a stained picture of Maggie with a man size pack of tissues beside it.

Would the world be different today if Churchill hadn't taken over from Chamberlain?

No idea, but Chamberlain would have drank a lot less whiskey.

I think life is simple, you are only going to get back what you put in.

True that.
The one thing I have noticed as I get older is life is simple. Life just gets simpler and simpler.

 

[johncrobinson]

Folks held street parties in my home town when Thatcher died.Personally I thought it a bit cruel on her familly.
When my mother passed away the whole village turned out for her,It was a great comfort.

I think the way her party "dumped" her back in the day tells us all we need to know about the tories.!!!!

 

[pms67]

Folks held street parties in my home town when Thatcher died.Personally I thought it a bit cruel on her familly.
When my mother passed away the whole village turned out for her,It was a great comfort.

I think the way her party "dumped" her back in the day tells us all we need to know about the tories.!!!!

She was a nasty piece of work and I’ll never be persuaded otherwise ,a typical privileged Tory looking down on the working classes.

 

[Rodcx500z]

8-04-13 a great day which I celebrate every year, and 28 September 2013 when they sent her to hell, made me reduntant twice in 2 years I hope the ***** is still lying on the red hot coals of hell

 

[foxy]

J


Do you have a stained picture of Maggie with a man size pack of tissues beside it.
.

No but I read a lot of history and history is irrefutable proof, UK was a country without guidance, 3 day weeks, working for Britain where people clocked off and worked overtime for free, crippled by strikes , car workers going on strike because there wasn't enough milk in their tea.
Companies even the car manufacturers going to the wall, who in their right mind would want to invest their money in a British company?
Germany was leaving Britain in their wake, who won the war?
Who was in power when Nissan was persuaded to invest in Britain and build a plant in the N.E of England?
Thatcher achieved what she set out to achieve to bring investment back into the UK, again it was a tough decision for her to take on the unions and win, but someone would have had to do it sooner or later, one doesn't take on the Prime ministers roll to win a popularity contest they take it on to better the country and all its populace.
Investors invest in companies to make money, if they don't make money the money is invested elsewhere. No investors = no jobs.
Looking at the 60's the working man thought they had a job for life, but the world was changing, companies move their production where ever the labour is cheapest, China will have its day as will India but China now has more strikes than any other nation.
As for Nissan in the NE of England I did see a documentary and that plant was the most profitable out of all the other Nissan plants, don't know if it still is, and I don't know how the other car manufacturing plants fare in the UK.
I did watch Margaret Thatchers Funeral and the ones who turned their backs were in a minority.
Anyhow I would much sooner talk about making good beer than politics, although I do like a political discussion just as much. Are we in the snug by the way?

 

[Brianbrewed]

Are we in the snug by the way?

The amount of times you go on about socialism been bad and how great Maggie was I thought I stumbled into a conservative party conference.

No but I read a lot of history

Are you sure you're reading it right???

 

[pms67]

carworkers going on strike because therewasn't enough milk in their tea.

All the milk she stole from millions of kids sorted that!!!!!

Seriously we are all entitled to our own opinion and if you think she did a good job fair enough although many will disagree

 

[foxy]

The amount of times you go on about socialism been bad and how great Maggie was I thought I stumbled into a conservative party conference.



Are you sure you're reading it right???

History doesn't lie, and if she was so unpopular how come she lasted 15 years in the job? Obviously she was liked by the majority.
If socialism was so good how come it is still not embraced by the countries which were socialists, Czech Republic embraced socialism with more fervour than any other country, didn't take them that long to find out that it didn't work.

 

[Brianbrewed]

History doesn't lie,.

There are different interpretations of History and from your comments I reckon you are coming from the right.

Czech Republic embraced socialism with more fervour than any other country,

I was under the impression Czechoslovakia was under Soviet domination as they were liberated by the Nazis by the Red Army. They didn't really have a say what kind of government they got. Ever hear of the Prague spring?

if she was so unpopular how come she lasted 15 years in the job? Obviously she was liked by the majority.

The UK's first past the post voting system???

Anyway I get it, you have a thing for maggie and not a fan of socialism.
Got it.
Cool.

 

[foxy]

There are different interpretations of History and from your comments I reckon you are coming from the right.

I was under the impression Czechoslovakia was under Soviet domination as they were liberated by the Nazis by the Red Army. They didn't really have a say what kind of government they got. Ever hear of the Prague spring?


The UK's first past the post voting system???

Anyway I get it, you have a thing for maggie and not a fan of socialism.
Got it.
Cool.

Prague spring was when the Czechoslovak's realised that socialism wasn't so good after all, that is when Russia stepped in. As for Margaret Thatcher I still haven't heard a good argument against her policy's, hardly think stopping school milk is grounds for hatred by the few.

 

[pms67]

Prague spring was when the Czechoslovak's realised that socialism wasn't so good after all, that is when Russia stepped in. As for Margaret Thatcher I still haven't heard a good argument against her policy's, hardly think stopping school milk is grounds for hatred by the few.

You obviously don’t know any former coal miners families

 

[foxy]

You obviously don’t know any former coal miners families

Actually I know plenty my mothers family were itinerant coal miners moving backwards and forwards between South Yorkshire and North Derbyshire.

 

[St00]

I think it's fair to say that politics isn't something everyone's going to agree on. I'm definitely not going to agree with Foxy, but I'd defend his right to freely express his political opinion just as strong as I disagree with it.

I don't believe all left leaning politics should be branded socialism, as much as all capitalist politics should be branded fascism. I don't believe the current Tory rule of the last 10 years has worked, just look at the poor gap and the degradation of Public Services. I also think that if you vote Tory you're siding with the "I'm alright jack" and "everyman for himself" "F*ck the different and the vulnerable" mentality, which I see everywhere I look when political opinions get discussed.

I would suggest that other countries seem to balance their financials and looking after their populous rather well, not every left leaning country is bankrupt, but the news and Tory controlled media would have you believe that. Socialism doesn't have to be stuck in the past, nor repeat it's mistakes.

 

[pms67]

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Too funnyhttps://youtu.be/7aRPlOIMcRo