red wine question

[artyb]

ive been asked by some relatives if i can make a reasonable red wine for xmas time, :hmm:

im a bit wary of the claims on some of the kits..... as most red wine has a lot of different complex flavours.. [do these flavours really come from the fermenting of ingredients or are some added afterwards..?]

has anyone got any tried and tested recommendations from the kits ranges, beaverdale,cellar 7,belvino,solomon grundy etc..and would they need long maturation periods..?

many thanks

 

[jonboymentalhealth]

From what i gather the beauty of the kits is they do not require long maturation times but imyet to try them so i'm sure someone will come along with more info.... :whistle:

 

[artyb]

a lot of em claim to make good red wine... im just not so sure.... :hmm:

 

[Moley]

ive been asked by some relatives if i can make a reasonable red wine for xmas time, :hmm:

This Christmas?
Define “reasonable”.

I've only made a couple of Beaverdale kits and would say they are drinkable at 3 months, but nothing to get too excited about.

 

[artyb]

yep this xmas.... :thumb:

definiton of reasonable red wine.....? [one ya wont spit out ..lol]

unlike the one my sil bought in a pub last week it was bitter as £*@£....! [ i should have thought to put a spot of sugar in it from the table]

 

[metalmickey]

ive made a kenridge pinot noir and a shiraz and both turned out well. they were both good in one month but got better with age

neil

 

[Aleman]

The more expensive kits (Beaverdale/Selection/Heron Bay) Produce a quality wine, but like a 'real' wine require aging . . . 9-12 months is best.

As far as the cheap '5/7/14/21' day kits are concerned . . . stick to juice wines you get a much better product at the end

 

[babe10]

My first attempt at wine making was with a Youngs Definitive red wine kit from Wilkinsons and although I was new to wine making I was disappointed at the result, even though I followed the instructions to the letter. I much prefer to drink red wine but I think from reading on this forum you have to be prepared to source decent wine grapes and have the patience to wait months for maturity. Next Christmas maybe, I will probably be drummed out of homebrew towers for this but you would probably best to buy the red wine and make a Wurzelas Rose. I love California red by Blossom hill or Jacobs Creek if a bit better off. I dont think we are gonna get a turbo red wine recipe any day soon, but we live in hope :pray: did anyone see a programme on telly Thursday night? It was what goes into our drinks. I missed it but my son says the wine industry does not want to or indeed have to list the ingredients on the bottles. They put in fish livers amonst other stuff :sick: . I missed it but hope they repeat it.

 

[Moley]

I will probably be drummed out of homebrew towers for this but you would probably best to buy the red wine and make a Wurzelas Rose.

Tell the drummer to stand down, I think she's hit the nail on the head.

I don't think we are gonna get a turbo red wine recipe any day soon, but we live in hope :pray:

I'm trying to come up with one but have failed so far
Red grape juice & prune juice works quite well but lacks body, I must try it again with raisins.


I didn't see the programme you mentioned, what channel was it on? Might it be on one of the internet repeat players?

Although fish products might be used in clearing I don't think they would have to include that in the ingredients list because it doesn't make it to the bottle.

 

[babe10]

I didn't see the programme you mentioned, what channel was it on? Might it be on one of the internet repeat players


The wine programme in question was on the same night/time as the Liverpool footie game last week. Thursday I think because my son came in from work and switched the telly over while his GF was watching that wine programme (like footie fans do!!!). I would'nt care he is a Toon fan!!! They did switch it back and forth while the pundits blow hot air about the game and saw snippets of it. We dont have Sky at the mo and can't record anything, so it must have been on ch4 or 5 or one of the freeview channels. Let me know if you find it.

 

[babe10]

Found the wine programme....Britains Disgusting Drinks BBC3 thursday 9pm to 10pm

Son mentioned tannin being added but thats what we do huh?
gonna watch it later on iplayer
I think you are right Moley the additives get taken out before bottling.

My uncle Bob used to work in an engineering factory years ago
and when they emptied the tea urn at one point
they found an old leather glove in it :sick:
He claimed the tea was never the same again!!!!!! :shock:

My herbal tea bag started on 28th august still has a few, well hardly any really,
tiny bubbles in the neck of jar do I still leave it?
my orange wurzel started the 8th September keeps reviving itself
temperature is dropping at night i think is that ok? thanks

 

[babe10]

[/quote]I'm trying to come up with one but have failed so far
Red grape juice & prune juice works quite well but lacks body, I must try it again with raisins.

If you could that would make you as famous as Sir Wurzel -yes I think he should be knighted
(Sorry I'm just so thrilled that Merlin is back on telly)

 

[graysalchemy]

Red grape juice & prune juice works quite well but lacks body, I must try it again with raisins.

I was mulling over the same question last night whilst drinking a chilean red, and came up with the idea that plenty of raisins would be need to be added to give body, prune for depth of colour and probably welch's red grape juice as I believe that the grape variety used concorde is a wine variety am I right? Obviously it isn't going to be a shiraz or Cabernet Sauvignon but would be as good as we could hope from the supermarket.

Any more thoughts anyone.

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AG

 

[moonwitch]

well i have one fermenting away just at 1.000 at moment i will let you know i decided to try and get a nice red as most of mine turn out rose or white but im happy with them it's just my fella likes red i have one i made that is red but not as deep as i would like it and another like i said fermenting. can't claim their my recipe just played around with wurzuls and a failed ribena which i did totally wrong. I will post details if anyone is interested i do have some pictures on another post on my wines on the go at moment have a look and see if it is any where near right colour for you :)

 

[graysalchemy]

Yep I would be interested in what you used.

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[31bb3]

ive done quite a few of the 30 bottle 7-10 day kits from grape concentrate they are very reasonable kits i recommend them i thenk matchless do them also hamstead home brew do them :thumb:

 

[moonwitch]

Yep I would be interested in what you used.

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for this one i used
2ltr supermarket prune juice
1ltr supermarket blueberry juice
3ltr supermarket red grape
4 ltr welshes purple grape juice (on special at tesco's )
and a ltr of high juice blackcurrent.
then just X 5 wurzuls recipe.
Initial Sg was 1.070 so adjusted till i got 1090
it is now clearing
the other one i messed about a bit more putting dried fruit and stuff but that is still fermenting
good wurzul's recipe can be converted to most juices it is just picking the colours you desire and having a play :)

 

[babe10]

I will be watching this with interest as I love red wine. I still think the one you have with the dried fruit in would give you a bit more body like a merlot. Thats what we red drinkers want, a heavy boddied wine like a port wine but that would take longer to mature and i am not very patient!. I found the youngs kit too thin for my taste. Thanks for the pics the colour looks lovely.

 

[graysalchemy]

Just had a taste of my elderberry port which was made with 3lb elderberry 4lb of blackberry and 1lb of raisins and 1kg of sugar making 1 gallon. However I am disappointed with the lack of body. Usually that recipe has loads of body, mind you I used to leave it for 3-4 years. I definitely need sweetening up with demarara sugar which I suppose will also add body.