Recipe Advice

[Reviled]

Hey guys, with all the cold weve been having over here lately, ive been craving for a nice malty beer, so I thought I should try knock up and English type IPA, a bit of a change from the AIPA's i normally brew...

What im going for is a toasty, malty beer but with some spicy and earthy hop flavour and aroma, i think Columbus and Williamette give these characteristics so ive been playing round with this recipe...

Any thoughts? :grin:

68% Pale
20% Munich
4% CaraAmber
4% Brown
2% Dark Crystal
2% Cara Munich II

90 - 8g Nugget 11.6%
20 - 10g Columbus 14.2%, 20g Williamette 6.8%, 10g NZ Goldings 4.8%
10 - 15g Columbus 14.2%, 15g Williamette 6.8%, 10g NZ Goldings 4.8%
FO - 15g Columbus 14.2%, 20g Williamette 6.8%, 10g NZ Goldings 4.8%
Will probably dry hop with the same as the FO addition...

Thinking either US-05, 1469, or 1026 :drink:

 

[tubby_shaw]

You're barking up the wrong tree for a traditional IPA with that recipe Reviled.
For an IPA it will contain Pale malt and maybe a touch of crystal :thumb:

Your recipe is more of an ESB, we wouldn't usually add all those speciality malts either :hmm:
The toasty malty flavour would be derived from crystal and chocolate or black malt :thumb:
All of the above is not to say that yours won't be a great beer :drink: but it is not generally the way we brew over here in the UK

 

[Reviled]

So u reckon pale, crystal, teensy bit of choc and a touch of black would be more the go?? :hmm: What sort of percentages would you reckon?

And I know you probably wouldnt use Munich but I cant help myself, I has to have it in everything lol

Interesting... I know its alot of specialty's but they are all in there for a reason, I originally just had 4% caramunich II but thought I would mix it up a bit...

 

[topconker]

Try this Reviled, makes a really good ale based on London Pride made by Fullers brewery.

Sam’s Pride (named after my son).

6 ½ lb crushed malted barley
15 ozs crushed crystal malt
15 ozs flaked maize
1lb. 4ozs sugar

1ozs Target hops (1)
¾ ozs Challenger hops (2)
½ oz Northdown hops (3) for aroma

Cheers & Happiness,
TC

 

[Aleman]

Columbus and Nugget are not exactly traditional 'English' IPA ether . . . Fuggles Or Goldings . . . and ONE hop addition at up to 4 oz per UK Gallon as the wort comes to the boil .. . . Perhaps dry hopping at 1/10 oz per gallon at casking

 

[topconker]

Agree Fuggles and Goldings although Challenger work well.
Styrian Goldings give a superb nose added @ Alemans rate.
The Sams Pride recipe I've given above was set as the fixed recipe in the national brewing championship some years ago and proved very popular.
It's designed to be kegged not bottled with an OG of 1045 which admittedly is not an IPA strength but produces a superb dring ale.
Suggest also to brew to OG not length, something I've seen here and which I dont agree with, but that's another conversation.
TC

 

[ano]

It's designed to be kegged not bottled

How would it differ if it were designed to be bottled?

 

[Moley]

and ONE hop addition at up to 4 oz per UK Gallon as the wort comes to the boil

HOW MUCH ?!?!
That's over half a kilo in a 25L brew.

 

[Aleman]

and ONE hop addition at up to 4 oz per UK Gallon as the wort comes to the boil

HOW MUCH ?!?!
That's over half a kilo in a 25L brew.

Seems like a lot doesn't it . . . but that was taken directly from a brewing ledger from around 1830 or so. . .. . Of course what you should possibly remember is that up to three beers were made from the malt and hops. . . First runnings at about 1.075 were boiled with the hops . . . in the meantime another batch of liquor was added to the mash tun and it was remashed for 2-3 hours . . . then run off onto the 'spent' hops from the first boil . . . and then repeat again . . Ending up with three beers at 1.075 (IPA around 300IBU), 1.050 (Pale Ale 90 IBU) 1.035 (Table Beer 40IBU)

 

[tubby_shaw]

So u reckon pale, crystal, teensy bit of choc and a touch of black would be more the go?? :hmm: What sort of percentages would you reckon?
Up to 10% crystal. 2% chocolate and no more than 1/2% of black for me :thumb:

And I know you probably wouldnt use Munich but I cant help myself, I has to have it in everything lol
It's your beer, if that's what you prefer then who can disagree with you :thumb:

Interesting... I know its alot of specialty's but they are all in there for a reason, I originally just had 4% caramunich II but thought I would mix it up a bit...
Again it's your beer :thumb: It's just not what we would normally use in the UK

 

[topconker]

Ano,
If bottling I'd increase the OG with more grain and decrease the sugar which attenuates leaving a thinner beer.
Bottled IPA should have a more maltier hoppy flavour then this recipe will give.
I can give an IPA recipe than has won many awards over the years and you can see the difference imediately.
TC

 

[Reviled]

Some great comments guys and food for thought, cheers :thumb:

But, um... WTF is with all this lbs and ozs rubbish? thought your country was all down with kgs, gms, and litres

 

[Reviled]

The more i look at my recipe the more it looks like an American Amber or American IPA :? Woops, guess im sorta stuck in my ways a bit... The hop selection in my freezer dont help much either...

I think I may have to get my hands on some EKG, Fuggles, and Styrians, possibly some challenger as well and mix it all up a bit... Yum :drink:

Im still gonna brew the above, will let you all know how it turns out...

Cheers

 

[jamesb]

But, um... WTF is with all this lbs and ozs rubbish? thought your country was all down with kgs, gms, and litres

That's what the EU would like everyone to think.

I want my beer in pints, my mince in pounds and my car milage in rods to the hogshead.

 

[Reviled]

But, um... WTF is with all this lbs and ozs rubbish? thought your country was all down with kgs, gms, and litres

That's what the EU would like everyone to think.

I want my beer in pints, my mince in pounds and my car milage in rods to the hogshead.

Dont get me wrong, I want my beer in Pints too

But so not down with the whole lbs and ozs goddammit! Its so confusing, and just doesnt make sense, specially with brewing, 1/4 oz??? etc, surely 7gms seems more logical? lol

 

[jamesb]

Dont get me wrong, I want my beer in Pints too

But so not down with the whole lbs and ozs goddammit! Its so confusing, and just doesnt make sense, specially with brewing, 1/4 oz??? etc, surely 7gms seems more logical? lol

I think it's all down to age and whether you've been forced to metric in the workplace.

I was born in the days of metric and I'm entirely comfortable using both. Younger ones only deal with oz's when they're buying drugs, and older people are mixed. The quite older tend to still want to use lbs and ozs.

 

[Reviled]

Youre probably right, im only 23 and have used gms and kgs my whole life, this whole pounds and ozs thing just goes straight over my head :?

 

[jamesb]

Youre probably right, im only 23 and have used gms and kgs my whole life, this whole pounds and ozs thing just goes straight over my head :?

I tend to convert kg/g to lb/oz in my head rather than the other way round, which is unusual for someone of my tender years ( :rofl: ).

 

[topconker]

I guess it's just down to what you're used to.
As long as you dont mix the 2 it's not a problem, anyway, it's easy enough to convert from one to the other, being a tad older than you guys I'll stick to god old pounds, shillings and pence!!!!!
TC

 

[jamesb]

As long as you dont mix the 2 it's not a problem, anyway, it's easy enough to convert from one to the other, being a tad older than you guys I'll stick to god old pounds, shillings and pence!!!!!

I got thrown out of the pub last time I tried that one.