PilgrimHudds Brewdays

[pilgrimhudd]

And a long bottling session....

Boiled up 160g sugar in 300mls water, 5ml each bottle.

Pilsner first... 16x500ml bottles and 3x 330's. Fg 1008, abv 5.7%, quite pale golden colour, no real aroma, tastes nice though, herb spiciness.

Saison next, 34x500ml bottles. Fg of 1003, abv of 7.4%. A lovely clear brown colour.. Taste is beautiful, fruity, slightly sour with a late earthiness which I think comes from the rye.

 

[samale]

And a long bottling session....

Boiled up 160g sugar in 300mls water, 5ml each bottle.

Pilsner first... 16x500ml bottles and 3x 330's. Fg 1008, abv 5.7%, quite pale golden colour, no real aroma, tastes nice though, herb spiciness.

Saison next, 34x500ml bottles. Fg of 1003, abv of 7.4%. A lovely clear brown colour.. Taste is beautiful, fruity, slightly sour with a late earthiness which I think comes from the rye.

Looking forward to see how your Saison turns out. I am bottling my lemon and rosemary rye Saison tomorrow night. I will keep you a bottle

 

[pilgrimhudd]

Looking forward to see how your Saison turns out. I am bottling my lemon and rosemary rye Saison tomorrow night. I will keep you a bottle

Me too, it's unlike anything i've done before so I hope it comes out well. Yeah, that sounds nice and refreshing that, how much rosemary did you use?

 

[foxbat]

For those people who know something about electrics....can you tell me why my klarstein won't maintain temp without tripping during the mash but will maintain a rolling boil half full of water when I give it a clean out? It's the 2nd time this has happened the only thing I can think of is that it's using more power (with grain in) and the electrics can't cope?

The boiler is cutting itself off, right? I mean it's not tripping a fuse in your house fuse box is it? Assuming that it is the boiler then it'll be a safety temperature sensor reporting that it's getting too hot around the element. Elements stay within their working range by using the liquid in the boiler as a coolant to carry away the heat. If you're letting your grain bag touch the bottom then the grain will tend to settle there, blocking the transfer of heat away from the element. Do you have a recirculation pump?

 

[pilgrimhudd]

The boiler is cutting itself off, right? I mean it's not tripping a fuse in your house fuse box is it? Assuming that it is the boiler then it'll be a safety temperature sensor reporting that it's getting too hot around the element. Elements stay within their working range by using the liquid in the boiler as a coolant to carry away the heat. If you're letting your grain bag touch the bottom then the grain will tend to settle there, blocking the transfer of heat away from the element. Do you have a recirculation pump?

Thanks for getting back.

No so it's a bit odd... the trip isn't tripping, poor wording from me, the heating element just seems to stop working. I have seen this happen once and it sounds like the electric trips but only the heater stops working the rest of the electric is fine. To me that sounds like its internal but it's fine when I bring it in the house, this problem only occurs when in the garage. However as I said, after I've cleaned it I usually bring 10l to the boil and let it run through the tap etc and this seems to work fine in the garage. So it must be something to do with the grain/grainbag.....

 

[pilgrimhudd]

Sorry if that's gobbeldegook (sp)

 

[samale]

Me too, it's unlike anything i've done before so I hope it comes out well. Yeah, that sounds nice and refreshing that, how much rosemary did you use?

I used 5 g at flameout. I couldn't really find a recipe to follow. The only advice I could find was a little goes a long way. Time will tell but 5g seems a good starting point

 

[pilgrimhudd]

Yeah I would say less is more till you know what this one is like! Sounds great though. Your 2nd box of beer arrived just now.

 

[matt76]

Bottled up the kiwi pilsner, 85g sugar in 200mls water, 5ml per 500ml bottle, 34 bottles.

Looks golden, juicy almost not as clear as I hoped but still time. Grapefruity taste maybe, malty aftertaste, quite nice. Vaguely fruity aroma. Fg was 1010, makes it 5.2%.

Brace yourself @pilgrimhudd , just as a point of reference and since we were talking about carbonation in this Kiwi Pils, I'm gonna throw some numbers at you, just in case it's useful next time;

Looking at your numbers above I think you must have had some priming solution leftover.

So I think that means you were actually priming at a rate of 4.25g/L (with white table sugar?).

For comparison, my recent Helles (and also the Mexican Lager - you've tried both) was batch primed using 65g table sugar in 30 x 330ml bottles with zero waste.

That works out 6.57g/L white table sugar - roughly half as much again as you used here.

(N.B. I use a lot less in my ales, stouts and porters, more like 3.5-4.0g/L, but I generally prefer a bit less carbonation in these beers)

 

[pilgrimhudd]

I did have some left over!

That is surprising, although now I see it in black and white it makes a lot of sense! I think part of the problem is I'm worried about over carbing since all the piss take I got from priming with 1/2 kilo of sugar that ONE time!

 

[moto748]

Butting into your conversation, guys, but I also prime with syrup, currently at a rate of 3 g per 500 ml bottle. Which I thought was on the low end of the spectrum, but matt for example there is priming at 2,125 g per bottle, and I've seen other posters saying similar. I was all set to increase my priming rate, after trying some fairly flat stout! Of course, it 'all depends', on your yeast and techniques. But now I think I ought to hold off from any drastic changes to priming rates. Maybe that 'under-carbonated' stout will come good with that great healer, Father Time!

 

[moto748]

In fact what I probably should do, thinking about it, is just increase the prime by a set amount just in a couple of bottles, mark the bottle tops to identify, and keep them till last, and check the difference it makes.

 

[pilgrimhudd]

Managed to get a brew in today

4.2kg best pale malt
200g carapils

Mash at 64c for 2hours.

15g magnum @60
20g mandarin bavaria @10
10g simcoe @10
20g mandarina bavaria @5
10g simcoe @5
30g mandarina &10g simcoe whirlpooled at 70c for 25mins.

Og 1040, a few points under what I wanted, 20l in the fv, pitched us west coast from malt Miller. 47 ibu.

 

[matt76]

Nice one dude - assuming you're not planning to dry hop (?) I'll be interested to hear how the hops come through with those late additions and the whirlpool

 

[pilgrimhudd]

Nice one dude - assuming you're not planning to dry hop (?) I'll be interested to hear how the hops come through with those late additions and the whirlpool

I was wondering this, I have 30g of mandarina left, I could chuck that in with some simcoe, not going to do anything else with it.

 

[matt76]

I was wondering this, I have 30g of mandarina left, I could chuck that in with some simcoe, not going to do anything else with it.

Just looking at the recipe again with fresh eyes.....

That's quite a long whirlpool at a fairly low temperature - so I'd have thought it would have done a fairly good job at extracting those volatiles without them evaporating off too much, and without extracting additional bitterness (famous last words!)...

I wouldn't necessarily rush to dry hop it - I was surprised how hoppy my American Stout ended up from just a whirlpool and no dry hop.

I'd have a taste once it's hit FG and then see. That's not to say definitely don't dry hop - ideal for me would be split it and dry hop half to compare with/without... but at this stage frankly that's way too much aggro!

 

[pilgrimhudd]

No, I mean I'm in two minds really, dont want the hops to go to waste but I don't think a 40g dry hop (with some simcoe) will make a great deal of difference either way.

 

[user 18729]

Managed to get a brew in today

4.2kg best pale malt
200g carapils

Mash at 64c for 2hours.

15g magnum @60
20g mandarin bavaria @10
10g simcoe @10
20g mandarina bavaria @5
10g simcoe @5
30g mandarina &10g simcoe whirlpooled at 70c for 25mins.

Og 1040, a few points under what I wanted, 20l in the fv, pitched us west coast from malt Miller. 47 ibu.

That’s repackaged Bry-97 (I think) fantastic yeast for hoppy beers. A long lag time but it’s great for that style, a variant of the Chico yeast I think

 

[pilgrimhudd]

That’s repackaged Bry-97 (I think) fantastic yeast for hoppy beers. A long lag time but it’s great for that style, a variant of the Chico yeast I think

Yes, bry_97 think I read that the other day. That's good to know, thanks!

 

[Donegal john]

Thanks for getting back.

No so it's a bit odd... the trip isn't tripping, poor wording from me, the heating element just seems to stop working. I have seen this happen once and it sounds like the electric trips but only the heater stops working the rest of the electric is fine. To me that sounds like its internal but it's fine when I bring it in the house, this problem only occurs when in the garage. However as I said, after I've cleaned it I usually bring 10l to the boil and let it run through the tap etc and this seems to work fine in the garage. So it must be something to do with the grain/grainbag.....

Jumping in here. Did you get this issue sorted ? I had it in my old 30l one concept boiler (repackaged klarstein) and has to bypass the thermal cutout to allow a rolling boil.