Petition for a new General Elections

[Rodcx500z]

That's not true, @Rodcx500z . Some countries you do and some countries you don't.

How your pension is affected​

Your State Pension will only increase each year if you live in:

• the European Economic Area (EEA)
• Gibraltar
• Switzerland
• countries that have a social security agreement with the UK (but you cannot get increases in Canada or New Zealand)

You will not get yearly increases if you live outside these countries.
Your pension will go up to the current rate if you return to live in the UK.

We are no longer in the EU thank god

 

[Brew_DD2]

Sorry going to have to disagree the dodgy ex civil servant or bent copper is an outdated stereotype the final salary scheme ceased on 2015 the civil service pension is not the luxury it was once seen as.
I think you miss the point being punished because you invested in your works scheme (at that time not seen a private pension but a works scheme) you still paid your full national insurance and paid tax all your days, but now are banned from winter allowance up here in Scotland is IS colder just a geographical fact, the impact here is harder felt. Older people DO feel the cold more sorry just a medical fact so tho stay warm they need to spend more on energy that does not discriminate same price for all. To be clear am not against the idea of tailoring benefits, but as said before the hard cut off point actually distorts this out of all proportion, if you fall bellow the cut off you get pension credit, housing benefit, council tax support, reduced phone. broad packages etc AND you get the winter allowance. Go over that threshold you get taxed and ZERO benefits no access to reduced phone etc. This has been going on for years now and the idea that UK pensioner are all rich is frankly insulting.
Yes some may be lucky enough to be wealthy but its not a huge amount, the fact that Scottish Labour want to overturn the winter allowance is proof is not fir and just measure in my eyes.
I agree if you are lucky enough to live abroad why should you get something designed to offset the UK weather!
On wider point the way benefit thresh holds are calculated needs to be changed all the benefits and reductions should be taken into account and calculated, likewise household incomes should be calculated against essential out going ie mortgage and council tax that would radically change the outlook. Speaking personally if i was out of work or classed not able to work my expendable income would actually increase!
The system is deeply broken and needs overhauled example a divorced mother can claim at least 20% of ex partners NET income if they have kids, BUT she does not have this included in benefit calculation, so gets paid on top of said benefits, and reductions, if the father wants joint access has to pay full whack for bigger house bigger council tax and so on and ends up worse off for working full time than the mother who does not work.
Yes that an extreme example but its fact, sadly

I think this was a reply to Ankou?

 

[MashBag]

Rather than petitions wait for the local council elections next May that will be a truer barometer of people in the regions thoughts

Better still why don't the 2.6m people who have signed the petition JOIN THE LABOUR PARTY. Its £4. Block vote and fcuk they up from the inside.

 

[An Ankoù]

Better still why don't the 2.6m people who have signed the petition JOIN THE LABOUR PARTY. Its £4. Block vote and fcuk they up from the inside.

Keep up at the back!
Haven't they already done this?Does it look like the Labour Party to you?

 

[Brew_DD2]

Lets not forget the state pension is not a benefit

It is.

 

[Rodcx500z]

It's paid for over 35 years and more in my case

 

[MashBag]

Lets not forget the state pension is not a benefit

Wassit then?

 

[An Ankoù]

We are no longer in the EU thank god

No we're not, but how is that relevant?

 

[Brew_DD2]

It's paid for over 35 years and more in my case

It's still a benefit, and that's not how it works. You don't pay for your own. Workers now are paying for yours. That's why as our population gets older and older, it gets less and less affordable. We either need more kids to be born, or have more migration to pay for it.

 

[Rodcx500z]

No we're not, but how is that relevant?

You don't get an increase, unless you reside here for 6 months of the year

 

[Brew_DD2]

You don't get an increase, unless you reside here for 6 months of the year

He lives in the EEA.

 

[An Ankoù]

a short sighted reply to the people who have been the backbone of this country for 35 years plus

Emotional rubbish, @The Baron . That may make you feel good for saying it, but does nothing to help those in need.
We've all been the backbone of the country for 35+ years. For some of us the dice have fallen fairer than for others. Those for whom it has fallen poorly should be helped to live in dignity in their old age. That's not going to happen while countless billions are being wasted on well-heeled pensioners going out for champagne dinners courtesy of their £200 Christmas windfalls!
Open your eyes and look injustice in the face if you can. For example, look at our veterans living rough on the streets. Too old or too instutionalised to fit back in to civilian life. Or too traumatised by what they've seen and done to be able to face themselves without drugs or alcohol and we pat each other on the back for buying a poppy once a year. It's a sick joke. I hope the Chancellor can get round to spending some of this heating money to help these poor souls.
Don't talk to me about the backbone of the country as if it comes out of the script of an Eastenders episode.
Any allowance from the public purse, in my opinion, should be means tested.

Right. who's next. I'm on a roll.

 

[An Ankoù]

You don't get an increase, unless you reside here for 6 months of the year

Sorry @Rodcx500z . You've lost me.
I live in France. I'm officially domiciled in France. I fill in a French tax return.
I get my increase every year.
Until this year I hadn't even been over The Ditch for 5 years.

 

[Rodcx500z]

He lives in the EEA.

The United Kingdom left the EEA when it left the EU on 31 January 2020

 

[Rodcx500z]

Sorry @Rodcx500z . You've lost me.
I live in France. I'm officially domiciled in France. I fill in a French tax return.
I get my increase every year.
Until this year I hadn't even been over The Ditch for 5 years.

I didn't mean you An,

 

[An Ankoù]

Wassit then?

Well, do you consider interest earned at the bank to be a benefit. Or dividends on any shares you might own (no personal experience of this latter in case you were wondering).
If you crash your car and your motor insurance pays to replace it or get it fixed, is that a benefit?
If so, then the return on my investment of national insurance contributions and that of my employer and my payment into the Teacher's Pension Scheme is a benefit.
But it doesn't seem like that to me.

 

[Brew_DD2]

The United Kingdom left the EEA when it left the EU on 31 January 2020

What relevance does that have?

Anyone UK citizen that lives within the EEA still gets their increase. The fact that we left it bears absolutely no relevance.

 

[An Ankoù]

The United Kingdom left the EEA when it left the EU on 31 January 2020

Do you mean that because we left, we no longer have the right to decide to live in these countries? That's true, but it's by no means impossible.

 

[Larse]

What relevance does that have?

Anyone UK citizen that lives within the EEA still gets their increase. The fact that we left it bears absolutely no relevance.

Exactly. The rule was quoted at the top of this page. Getting dizzy with the circles being run here.

 

[Brew_DD2]

Exactly. The rule was quoted at the top of this page. Getting dizzy with the circles being run here.

Dunning Kruger on full display.