Partygate a new low.

[Dutto]

My thought is very simple:

“Let’s get the Tories out and then we can start thinking about who we’ve let in.”

One thing is a certainty! They won’t lie as much, steal as much or make as many bolt-holes for themselves and their friends as this lot!

 

[Chippy_Tea]

Amen to that Clint.

 

[moto748]

If labour cannot get this lot out at the next election they may as well give up.

But if they can't do you blame them, or the electorate?

Y'know, the guys that gave us Brexit...

Thanks so much for that.

 

[Dutto]

The huff and puff being produced by our glorious leader, reminded me that I saw the following written on the back of a toilet door in Grimsby (so it must be true):

“My mother brought me up
to be a misogynist.”​

… mind you, written on the same door (in two different inks) was …

“My mother made me a homosexual.”
and
“If I bought her the wool, would
she knit me one?”​

… so maybe the authors wrote lies.
:hat:

 

[Chippy_Tea]

But if they can't do you blame them, or the electorate?

My view is if they cannot come up with something that will persuade voters who "lent" the Tories their votes last time to come back they only have themselves to blame.

They are behind labour in the polls Labour have to keep them there.

 

[trueblue]

I am now waiting for the condemnation of Keir Starmer and Angela Rayner for their own partygate,which is looking more and more likely they lied about ,the Durham police leader in the pocket of Keir Starmer ,its all looking interesting ,thoughts ?

Starmer was not party to writing the rules, he was not on our TVs telling us to follow those rules and to the best of my knowledge he did not mislead/lie to parliament which according to the ministerial code the honorable thing to do would be to resign. I expect the tory press will as usual be full on to make this a bigger story than it is.

 

[starseeker]

So its all a pack of lies ,made up by the Tory press ?I am looking forward to how it turns out .
And how about the beavergate issue which is now looking was started by Raynor herself ,more Tory lies ?

 

[trueblue]

So its all a pack of lies ,made up by the Tory press ?I am looking forward to how it turns out .
And how about the beavergate issue which is now looking was started by Raynor herself ,more Tory lies ?

I did not say it is a pack of lies made up by the tory press I said the tory press will make it a bigger story than it is.

 

[An Ankoù]

So its all a pack of lies ,made up by the Tory press ?I am looking forward to how it turns out .
And how about the beavergate issue which is now looking was started by Raynor herself ,more Tory lies ?

Almost certainly. Game of follow my leader, really, innit! Does anyone really believe anything said by a cabinet minister or printed in the aforementioned rags? Only themselves to blame.

 

[Dutto]

So its all a pack of lies ,made up by the Tory press ?I am looking forward to how it turns out .
And how about the beavergate issue which is now looking was started by Raynor herself ,more Tory lies ?

Hold on a minute! Even the cartoonist Matt in the Torygraph has his dig at today’s clowns!

A couple of days ago, when the UK press was agog at an allegation that a Tory MP was watching porn when he should have been working, (later denied but then closely followed by his resignation) the Torygraph published a Matt cartoon.

The cartoon showed a load of people making a film and an old lady saying to the film’s Director,

“When your making your porn film,
could you include a mention of the
potholes in my street? My MP
just hangs up on me.”​

This sums up what the country think about this Government and the Tory MP’s that they foisted upon us at the last election.

 

[JeffDragon7]

In the last two elections it wasn’t a case of the Tories winning as much as Labour losing.
Corbyn was never going to win, Starmer not much better. Labour needs to get a leader people can get behind

 

[starseeker]

Personally, i think they are all as bad as one another ,Labour , Lib Dem or Conservative ,you just have to choose your poison really .

 

[Brewnaldo]

Personally, i think they are all as bad as one another ,Labour , Lib Dem or Conservative ,you just have to choose your poison really .

This is the worst sort of cop out imaginable.

 

[starseeker]

This is the worst sort of cop out imaginable.

How ?

 

[Chippy_Tea]

Corbyn was never going to win, Starmer not much better. Labour needs to get a leader people can get behind

I couldn't agree more.

 

[Chippy_Tea]

Personally, i think they are all as bad as one another ,Labour , Lib Dem or Conservative ,you just have to choose your poison really .

When it was announced there was to be a new party i genuinely thought this can only be a good thing and it would give all the voters who are tired of the same two parties pissing in the same pot something to vote for unfortunately people are stuck in their ways and all its MPs lost their seats and it failed, i guess we are destined to be governed by either Labour or conservative until the whole system is changed and i cannot see that happening any time soon.




The Independent Group for Change, also known as Change UK, was a British centrist, pro-European Union political party, founded in February 2019 and dissolved ten months later, shortly after all its MPs lost their seats in the 2019 general election. Its principal policy was support for a second referendum on European Union membership, in which it would campaign to remain in the EU. On economic issues it expressed a commitment to the social market economy.

In February 2019, seven MPs resigned from the Labour Party to sit as The Independent Group. They were dissatisfied by Labour's leftward political direction under Jeremy Corbyn's leadership, its approach to Brexit and its handling of allegations of antisemitism within the party. They were soon joined by four more MPs, including three from the governing Conservative Party who disliked their party's approach to Brexit and its perceived move rightward. That April, the group registered as a political party under the name Change UK – The Independent Group and appointed former Conservative MP Heidi Allen as their leader so as to compete in the 2019 European Parliament election.

Following the party's failure to secure any seats in that election, six of its eleven MPs, including Allen, left the party and Anna Soubry took over as leader. Four of the six formed The Independents grouping and two defected to the Liberal Democrats. Later, three of The Independents also joined the Liberal Democrats. Following a legal dispute with petition website Change.org, in June the party adopted the name The Independent Group for Change. Three of the party's MPs stood for re-election in the 2019 general election. None of them were re-elected, each losing to candidates from their former parties. On 19 December 2019, Soubry announced the party's dissolution.

 

[moto748]

Well, for a start, this government, and its leader, have behaved so appallingly in so many different areas. They have taken tax-payers money and handed it over to their chums in dodgy deals for useless PPE (see that awful Mone woman). Their response to the pandemic, despite having the resources of the NHS at their disposal, is second-worst in the world after Trump's US, They have weakened the courts' ability to provide oversight over Government actions, they have their beady eyes now on the independence of the Electoral Commission (quite sinister actually, after recent events in America). Johnson himself ensured that poor woman spent years more than she should behind bars in Iran.

I could go on...

Quite simply they do not deserve anyone's vote. They are laughing at us, as they lounge on the front benches watching porn.

 

[starseeker]

I was talking historically ,you can very easily find a very big stick to beat either of the main party,s with :)

 

[Chippy_Tea]

Quite simply they do not deserve anyone's vote. They are laughing at us, as they lounge on the front benches watching porn.

This demonstrates the problem perfectly the majority of labour voters will think the Tories have made a right mess of things and should be removed the Tories are split between those that think they have done a good job and those that dont but will never vote labour and here is the result.

I will make a prediction if Starmer is still leader when we have the next election Conservatives will win.

 

[Dutto]

In the last two elections it wasn’t a case of the Tories winning as much as Labour losing.
Corbyn was never going to win, Starmer not much better. Labour needs to get a leader people can get behind

Oh dear! If Labour voted Superman or Superwoman in as “Leader” the Tory Media would soon start denigrating what they did, who they did it with etc etc etc.

Nothing matters to these people as long as their own gravy train keeps on track and keeps showering them with goodies.

THAT is why the rich get richer and the poor get poorer - especially in the
UK.

Ever wondered why Tory Governments had so many Privately Educated people in it?

The record is held by Anthony Eden at 100% so I don’t think we should be surprised that Boris averages about 63%; especially as his heroine Margaret Thatcher (aka The Bitch) averaged 94%!

Ask yourself “How do 7.2% of the UK schools provide over 60% of the countries ruling junta when the Tories are in charge?” and the answer is always corruption!
:hat: