Our health again.

[dad_of_jon]

So we now need to lift weights twice a week to stay healthy in our old age

I do that every time I get off the couch to get another beer. :thumba:

you mean I have to brew on a weekly basis - lifting 21kg of beer into kitchen for bottling then 2-3 crates of beer up the stairs for conditioning -

 

[kelper]

Diet and exercise are complimentary, not alternatives!

 

[DavidDetroit]

almost half the benefit

I was a messenger (courier) on foot in Manhattan some time ago. It was excellent exercise and when I went back to jogging after three months off, I hadn't lost a step. Total respect for fast walking as an exercise.

 

[DavidDetroit]

burns surprisingly low calories

I've noticed that too. I believe though that building some muscle mass assists with overall calorie burning or something like that.
Only 2,500 calories for a marathon? It felt like more at the time, somewhere in the billion calorie range. I probably shouldn't have pounded a six-pack immediately afterward.

 

[DavidDetroit]

Believe me when your wearing work attire,safety boots,goggles,and have to wear an oversuit with overboots,hairnet and mask in a Fab that is at a constant 20.5° all year round and then have to work on various machines it can be very exhausting over a 12 hour shift days and night's.

I would totally consider that my quota for exercise, same with carpenters and the like.

 

[DavidDetroit]

I see plenty of intelligent people who take their cue from commercials on how to eat and should know better. I get funny looks when I say, "Don't buy anything in the middle aisles."

 

[Clint]

Another load of crap...

 

[Gerryjo]

Another load of crap...

What is?

 

[kelper]

If you are walking, does your pulse rise to 120? A pulsemeter might be more useful than a step counter.....

 

[Covrich]

IMO lifting weights and reistance training is more important tahn stepping on the treadmill, maintaining muscle mass is crucial.

But people consider me a fitness freak.. I do not advocate the whole diet and exercise though as I feel it is a cycle which neevr works..

I just say have balanced nutrition and sufficient training.. its lifestyle choices not 6 months on and off diets which normally have a dminishing return as you lose muscle mass

 

[samale]

IMO lifting weights and reistance training is more important tahn stepping on the treadmill, maintaining muscle mass is crucial.

But people consider me a fitness freak.. I do not advocate the whole diet and exercise though as I feel it is a cycle which neevr works..

I just say have balanced nutrition and sufficient training.. its lifestyle choices not 6 months on and off diets which normally have a dminishing return as you lose muscle mass

Each person is different. I hate the gym but happily train and run. Next up is the Dublin marathon. My son on the other hand lifts weights but couldn't run out of your way.

 

[Covrich]

Each person is different. I hate the gym but happily train and run. Next up is the Dublin marathon. My son on the other hand lifts weights but couldn't run out of your way.

I agree with that, I do running myself but these days stick to 5-10k. I personally never visit the gym I run exercise bike swim and kettlebell all from home (well not swimming lol).

Kettlebells are awesome, best of both worlds. Builds cardio fitness, burns fat better than anything else I know, builds muscle and strength and in particular alot of the compound movements streghent the core and the posterior chain.

If nothing else people should work on postior and strengthen external shoulder rotation, the amount of people in their 20s with rounded shoulders and weak upper backs muscles is scary. we live in a world on internally rotataion. most people have overly tight subscalaris and weakned infraspinatus and a neck which sticks far too forward.

 

[Chippy_Tea]

Chippy_Tea said: ↑
Depends how fast you walk

And how big the factory is!

:thumba:

 

[chthon]

I don't think walking in a factory counts as vigorous exercise!

Actually, just walking for at least 20 minutes a day is what our doctor recommends, and also what I find in other literature. It is not vigorous, but it doesn't need to be vigorous, just continuous.

 

[chthon]

I was a messenger (courier) on foot in Manhattan some time ago. It was excellent exercise and when I went back to jogging after three months off, I hadn't lost a step. Total respect for fast walking as an exercise.

Also, read up on US Marine history, one of the things they do very regularly is just long distance hiking.

 

[Clint]

"crap"...the never ending merry go round of what is or isn't good for us,what we should or should not eat...no one has a definite answer.
I was into weights,running etc when I was younger and I've always tried to moderate what I eat
After my hip replacement I resumed a recommended fitness routine to strengthen the muscles and get some mobility back. It worked but after about three years recurring sacrolitis has stopped me. The doctors will give me pills I don't want so I just put up with it.
I work in a factory where I'm occasionally on my feet but can have days seated or more relaxed. Surprisingly we measured our steps with one of those bands once during a machine set up and it amounted to three miles including lots of lifting, carrying and bending .

 

[Covrich]

"crap"...the never ending merry go round of what is or isn't good for us,what we should or should not eat...no one has a definite answer.
I was into weights,running etc when I was younger and I've always tried to moderate what I eat
After my hip replacement I resumed a recommended fitness routine to strengthen the muscles and get some mobility back. It worked but after about three years recurring sacrolitis has stopped me. The doctors will give me pills I don't want so I just put up with it.
I work in a factory where I'm occasionally on my feet but can have days seated or more relaxed. Surprisingly we measured our steps with one of those bands once during a machine set up and it amounted to three miles including lots of lifting, carrying and bending .

What the hell are you on about, unless I have misunderstood. its not a modern fad that training and exercise is actually good for you..

Why is maintaining some level of muscle mass crap?

 

[Clint]

No...I don't mean that. Read my post...it's the different expert opinions that seem to go round...run, don't run,you only need to walk X,eat this,don't eat that,drink that don't drink the other. There's no single bit of advice. Exercise is definitely good for you but in what form?
The various surgeons who have operated on my keg and hip over the years noted I had good muscle mass and asked what excercise I did...all said running on concrete,pavement was not a good idea as the impact would wreck your joints.

 

[kelper]

Walking alone, even briskly is not enough. The latest advice is to also do some resistance training. For 65s and older the advice is to strengthen muscles and balance. It's advice I intend to take. I'm already walking the dog. I'm buying some dumbbells.

 

[BarnBrian]

For over 65's I don't think weights are necessary. Stick with body weight excersises. At 68 I learned to do handstand push-ups, albeit against the wall. Paralettes are a good piece of kit, easy to make and take up no room.
Gymnastic rings are cheap and seriously good for maintaining/building muscle.