Newcastle Brown Ale

[MyQul]

Consider them on the way just to pee Mrs MyQul off:thumb:

I don't want to pee MrsMQ off.

 

[clibit]

That's what I was kind of thinking as compared to my own house stout some of the stuff I've bought in pubs cant hold a candle to it

Yes, definitely true of brown ale too. :thumb:

 

[stevej]

I don't want to pee MrsMQ off.

:hmm: should we add a poll to this thread and let the Members decide :-D

 

[MyQul]

Yes, definitely true of brown ale too. :thumb:

Might have a go at the receipe in GH's book then





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[MyQul]

:hmm: should we add a poll to this thread and let the Members decide :-D

How do I 'unlike' a post :hmm:

 

[mickthetrick]

nba isnt the same as it used to be. can remember in the 80`s and wasnt a bad drink. was certainly more flavoursome imo. its now brewed in yorkshire i believe as the brewery in newcastle closed some years back now. i tried a few bottles in las vegas 10 years back now and it tasted the same to me. it had on the bottles that it was brewed in Ohio over there. went back to vegas in May and was surprised at how popular it is now. almost all the hotel/ casinos had it and there was loads drinking it. i was talking to a driver and he told me it was one of the most popular drinks over there now.
anyway my local has sam smiths nut brown ale. i have a bottle or two when im in and i like that. its not a bad beer at all.

 

[Gaspode]

nba isnt the same as it used to be. can remember in the 80`s and wasnt a bad drink. was certainly more flavoursome imo. its now brewed in yorkshire i believe as the brewery in newcastle closed some years back now. i tried a few bottles in las vegas 10 years back now and it tasted the same to me. it had on the bottles that it was brewed in Ohio over there. went back to vegas in May and was surprised at how popular it is now. almost all the hotel/ casinos had it and there was loads drinking it. i was talking to a driver and he told me it was one of the most popular drinks over there now.
anyway my local has sam smiths nut brown ale. i have a bottle or two when im in and i like that. its not a bad beer at all.

As a student of Sunderland poly back in the early 80's Newkie Brown was the drink. Cheap, strong, readily available but most importantly it tasted great. Also on draught in many pubs in the area when it was produced locally and drinking it had the added benefit of not standing out as a southern softy with a pint of larger in your hand. It is definitely a shadow of its former self and is now pretty much just a homogenised brown liquid made by a huge brewery with little consideration of its heritage.

 

[clibit]

"Newcastle Amber Ale (1032 OG) was a light ale available until the 1980s. It was a diluted version of Exhibition. Amber Ale and a much stronger aged stock beer were formerly blended to create Newcastle Brown Ale.[31] This method was discontinued sometime before the brand was moved to Dunston.(2005)"

Newcastle Brown is not made the same way it used to be, as well as having moved to different breweries. It moved again in 2007 to John Smith's in Tadcaster.

 

[MyQul]

"Newcastle Amber Ale (1032 OG) was a light ale available until the 1980s. It was a diluted version of Exhibition. Amber Ale and a much stronger aged stock beer were formerly blended to create Newcastle Brown Ale.[31] This method was discontinued sometime before the brand was moved to Dunston.(2005)"

Newcastle Brown is not made the same way it used to be, as well as having moved to different breweries. It moved again in 2007 to John Smith's in Tadcaster.

John Smiths Brewery? Says it all really doesn't it.

 

[Tony1951]

Yes - they stopped brewing it in Newcastle in 2005 and moved over the river to the old Federation Brewery in Gateshead. That ceased production in 2009. I remember the amazing smell of large scale brewing pervading the city centre of Newcastle when I was a kid and long after. You could smell it half a mile away - really powerfully. The first time I ever got served in a pub when I was about sixteen and looking younger, I walked into a rough pub in North Shields with a mate who was younger than I was. We'd been fishing down on North Shields fish quay and we were on our way home going to the bus stop. Anyway - we sauntered in with our fishing rods and I says to the cynical looking barman, 'Two halfs of Brown Ale please'. I didn't realise it came only as pints so naive was I. So he raised an eyebrow, picked up a bottle and two half pint glasses and poured the drinks. 'Drink that quick and get lost' he said. We did as we were told and went home feeling we'd done OK.

 

[mickthetrick]

remember both the brewerys well fellas. im not too far away and this afternoon just passed were the fed. was, on my way to the metro centre. when they demolished the old newcastle brewery it was open casted for coal. they got many tons out of it before reinstating and building on the sight

 

[Tony1951]

remember both the brewerys well fellas. im not too far away and this afternoon just passed were the fed. was, on my way to the metro centre. when they demolished the old newcastle brewery it was open casted for coal. they got many tons out of it before reinstating and building on the sight

Open casted? Do you mean the building up on Westgate Road? I had no idea they did that. How weird is that? Mining about half a mile from the city centre - yet suggest a bit of fracking anywhere south of a line between Manchester and The Wash and the world will fall on yer heed!! :) I suppose some regions have a history of extracting energy and others don't. My grandfather was crawling about in an 18 inch coal seem two miles from Newcastle city centre at the age of 13 in 1909. He was shot through the chest on the Somme seven years later and died of Woodbines in the 1960s. He liked a few 'broon ales'.

 

[MyQul]

My grandfather was crawling about in an 18 inch coal seem two miles from Newcastle city centre at the age of 13 in 1909. He was shot through the chest on the Somme seven years later and died of Woodbines in the 1960s. He liked a few 'broon ales'.

He sound's like one tough old boy. Teenagers today act like it's the end of the world when they can't get a smart phone signal

 

[mickthetrick]

Open casted? Do you mean the building up on Westgate Road? I had no idea they did that. How weird is that? Mining about half a mile from the city centre - yet suggest a bit of fracking anywhere south of a line between Manchester and The Wash and the world will fall on yer heed!! :) I suppose some regions have a history of extracting energy and others don't. My grandfather was crawling about in an 18 inch coal seem two miles from Newcastle city centre at the age of 13 in 1909. He was shot through the chest on the Somme seven years later and died of Woodbines in the 1960s. He liked a few 'broon ales'.

yes Tony. they hit a good seam of coal there. it had to be taken out with all the building that was to happen on the sight .
http://www.construction-manager.co.uk/on-site/uncovering-newcastles-coal-mining-past/

 

[Tony1951]

He sound's like one tough old boy. Teenagers today act like it's the end of the world when they can't get a smart phone signal

He was as hard as nails and rarely to be seen without a woodbine in his hand or mouth.... He had a bad chest when I knew him, but my granny used to shake her head whenever he was coughing and say, 'He was gassed in the war you know,' and then make some uncharitable remark about the Germans.... LOL ... I don't think it was the gas - not that that would be very funny.

I once went down a mine when I was a lad on a school visit in 1966. We walked a heck of a long way along six foot high galleries and then came toa small hole in teh wall about knee height. There were two holes actually, one of them had a conveyor carrying coal coming out of it and the other we were told to crawl into. This didn't seem a great idea but in we went and we found ourselves in a sort of large chamber with a godawful noise and thick thick dust in the air. On our knees, our heads were up against the roof. It was a three foot high seem. After a bit, I realised there were men in there working on their knees. Some were working a machine that was grinding into the wall (floor, roof and walls were all coal) and others stripped to the waist and black so all you could make out were their eyes, were shovelling the coal broken off the wall onto the conveyor. It didn't appeal to me as a job somehow. Less so had it been an 18 inch seam like my grandfather worked in. they used little lads like that because they could fit inside the space.

 

[Cwrw666]

Did you keep the IBU's the same as it's quite low for the style?

I've made it several times - first time exactly as in the book, and very nice it was too. Subsequent brews I've tinkered with the quantities a tiny bit. Last one was:
10 1/2 lbs pale malt
10oz crystal
4 1/2 oz chocolate malt
20g admiral
20g challenger

so I've basically just increased flavour a tad and bitterness as well. Original thought before making the first brew was could such tiny quantities of hops be bitter enough. But even that first brew was surprisingly bitter and the resinous hop flavour of the admiral really punches through. And of course using so little hops makes it quite a cheap brew.

 

[MyQul]

I've made it several times - first time exactly as in the book, and very nice it was too. Subsequent brews I've tinkered with the quantities a tiny bit. Last one was:
10 1/2 lbs pale malt
10oz crystal
4 1/2 oz chocolate malt
20g admiral
20g challenger

so I've basically just increased flavour a tad and bitterness as well. Original thought before making the first brew was could such tiny quantities of hops be bitter enough. But even that first brew was surprisingly bitter and the resinous hop flavour of the admiral really punches through. And of course using so little hops makes it quite a cheap brew.

I'll give it a go then on your recommendation.:thumb: I got quite lot of hops in my freezer though so might use something other than Admiral (unless I can get the exact amount needed from my LHBS)

 

[clibit]

That's a really solid looking recipe, and with a great recommendation from cwrw, get stuck in lad!

Check out Orkney Dark Island, there are recipes for that on the web and it makes a fantastic ale which is pretty much a brown ale, or the one I made was! I eventually had a pint of the real thing on draught and the real thing was much darker than mine, and more like a dark mild. Also, Dark Island uses First gold hops, according to the brewery website. Mine used EKG, and possibly Cascade. I'll try to bang a recipe together from what i know, if you're interested.

 

[MyQul]

That's a really solid looking recipe, and with a great recommendation from cwrw, get stuck in lad!

Check out Orkney Dark Island, there are recipes for that on the web and it makes a fantastic ale which is pretty much a brown ale, or the one I made was! I eventually had a pint of the real thing on draught and the real thing was much darker than mine, and more like a dark mild. Also, Dark Island uses First gold hops, according to the brewery website. Mine used EKG, and possibly Cascade. I'll try to bang a recipe together from what i know, if you're interested.

I've only ever had ODI once in a dingey little pub off oxford street a few years ago. It was absolutely fantastic. A receipe would be much appreciated.:hat:

 

[clibit]

Bear in mind the recipes on the net seem to be nowhere near the real thing. So I could give you a recipe like the one I did, which was lovely, or try to get closer to the real thing, based on a pint I had a couple of years ago! It was a dark mild - if you like ODI on cask, you like dark milds!