nelson smash

[mishking]

Looking to move on from all grain kits and start whacking my own stuff together for the grain father.

I want to try and get a lowish abv brew on the go and figured id start with something fairly simple.

Looking at:

23ltr Brew

3.8kg Maris Otter

10g Magnum at 60 mins

5g Nelson at 30 mins
15g Nelson at 20 mins
15g Nelson at 10 mins
15g Nelson at 0 mins

What do you guys reckon?

Cheers,
Greg

 

[shepp]

That's not a smash

 

[mishking]

Fair cop!! Didn't know how good nelson would be for the bittering hop?

 

[BeerCat]

Ditch the 60 and do 15,5 and 0. Just did a pale ale using citra and was the hoppyist beer so far. 20g each addition and dry hop for a 10l batch.

 

[IainM]

That's not a smash

Its a smath, which is how you'd pronounce smash after a few anyway.

 

[mishking]

Right im going to go with the below as per beer cats recommendation.

Hops:

15g at 15
15g at 5
20g at 0

Not sure on the dry hop yet, cross that bridge when i get to it.

 

[Slid]

That's not a smash

This is quite clearly correct.

I have done similar, though, using the hop of choice for the later additions and a high alpha hop for the bittering hop at 60m. I am not aware of any drop-off in the end product due to this.

I am, though, talking about a 23L brew using ~ 100g of hops.

 

[Gerryjo]

You can still keep your bittering if you prefer just adjust your Nelson hops to the AA% of the Magnum or if your Magnum is 10% and 5% Nelson just double your weight.Enjoy and hope you SMaSH it....

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[BeerCat]

Best of luck. I am going to try this next week and do a chinook as well. NS smells awesome.

 

[Zephyr259]

Nelson Sauvin intrigues me quite a bit. I'm tempted to make a version of Greg Hughes' Patersbier but using NS. Since that beer is all pilsner malt it's essentially a pilsner/saas smash as written.

 

[The Idiot]

With Nelson, I'd add in a dry hop for 10 days, using around 75g.

 

[BeerCat]

Mine has just finished fermenting. Gonna let it settle a bit then dry hop. ended up using 30g @15,5 & 0 for a 12l batch. Forgot to have a sample but OG was 1052. Looking forward to this one.

 

[BeerCat]

Did you brew this yet? I know its probably obvious but mine tastes like white wine. Cant say i like it very much. Its still green although my citra smath was amazing after 3 weeks. Still blended with the citra its drinkable and a good experiment.

 

[Thumper]

That's not a smash

Serious newbie question here... what is a SMASH?

And a SMATH, while we're on the subject.

 

[Gerryjo]

SMaSH is single malt and single hop.I would assume SMaTH is two or three hops though never heard of it.

Gerry

 

[Thumper]

Thanks very much- the mystery is revealed!

 

[The Idiot]

SMaSH beers are a good way to learn about malts and hops and to get a feel for different tastes, aromas and mouthfeels. That said, it's rare to find a hop or a malt that can't be improved in combination. The same is also very much the case with yeast.

I sometimes think that while SMaSH beers can form part of a learning curve, you have to question whether the time to brew one is the best use of time and resources, unless of course there's a hop or malt that you like so much you want it in isolation. Part of the magic of brewing is getting the combinations to a balance that works for you.

 

[grmski]

The OP's brew should turn out not dissimilar to Thornbridge Kipling, single malt to 5%, 40-45ibu of magnum and flame out about 50g of Nelson's, you can get the recipe in Euan Fergusons http://amzn.to/2uBwJPK book it's a great beer and a nice simple recipe.

 

[mishking]

Not put this on yet as i had been busy and the subsequent hot weather has put me off as i have no temperature control.

Interesting comments on the NS BeerCat. Im thinking i might leave the NS and do an all citra or amarillo smash first. Get some under my belt and then have a crack at the NS.

Be interesting to see how that brew mellows out.

 

[Zephyr259]

I sometimes think that while SMaSH beers can form part of a learning curve, you have to question whether the time to brew one is the best use of time and resources, unless of course there's a hop or malt that you like so much you want it in isolation.

I have the same issues with SMaSH beers, being still fairly new to brewing my methodical, scientifically inclined side says I should do some smash beers to test out my ingredients. But people often say they are nice but a bit one dimensional, so I don't want to put in the time to brew and then drink a heap of fairly ordinary beers.

My most recent brew is close at 87% Maris Otter, 13% Munich then hopped with Galaxy.

I might brew up a batch of wort and fine a way to boil it up in 1 gallon batches each with a different hop, but that sounds like a long day and a lot of boiling losses.

Nelson Sauvin is one of the hops I want to try in isolation.