Mangrove m36 liberty bell reviews?

[Hoddy]

I have never failed but to be disappointed about how this yeast turns out a beer. Each time I’ve given it a go it always never really delivers on its promises. It’s a “wouldn’t bother” from me.

 

[LeeH]

I was at Anchor last year! Definitely still going.

Probably the best bar I’ve ever been in too.

 

[An Ankoù]

Hmm. Confused. I see very conflicting reports. What don't you like about it, Hoddy? I think it was MyQul who says its MJs Burton Union yeast replacement. This hasn't got good reviews and I wonder if its a rebranding or a replacement. Anyway, I've got a sachet so I'd better use it on something.

 

[Wynne]

I’ve recently fermented two batches of the same wort. One was fermented with MJ Liberty Bell the other with MJ West Coast . The LB took off quickly (~12 hours) and fermented out in about 48 hours to 1010. The WC took longer to get going (24-36 hours) seemed less vigorous and fermented down to 1008 in about 5 days. The results are consitent with the attenuation given in the MJ technical literature for these strains. After tasting samples, the WC tastes drier, not unlike Lallemand’s Nottingham. The beer is currently conditioning so may change more with time. Hope this helps.

 

[Hoddy]

Hmm. Confused. I see very conflicting reports. What don't you like about it, Hoddy? I think it was MyQul who says its MJs Burton Union yeast replacement. This hasn't got good reviews and I wonder if its a rebranding or a replacement. Anyway, I've got a sachet so I'd better use it on something.

Just the two times I used it was just a bit meh. Nothing really of any note, if anything a slight flowery sweetness it left which to me didn’t really add anything to the pale ale I used it in. Each to their own and all that.

 

[MyQul]

Hmm. Confused. I see very conflicting reports. What don't you like about it, Hoddy? I think it was MyQul who says its MJs Burton Union yeast replacement. This hasn't got good reviews and I wonder if its a rebranding or a replacement. Anyway, I've got a sachet so I'd better use it on something.

Yes, I had a little chart that had the rebranding of which MJ yeasts had rebranded into which names. I have a pack in my fridge to use if my re-culturing of my year old Gales slurry goes wrong. Iirc @jjsh seems to like it. In fact I bought it on his recommendation

 

[PJL]

I have used m36 a couple of time before and have just kegged a batch of Irish stout with m36. It seems to have turned out great.

 

[Alex.mc]

I've used M36 a couple of times, and really enjoyed it. I can't be more specific than that really, and taste is so subjective!
Put it this way, It's a yeast I would use again without question if it fitted the profile of what I was brewing.

 

[An Ankoù]

Still haven't used mine as I had an M42 as well, which I understand to be a dry Whitbread yeast. I'm making a stout and a brown ale over the coming weeks so I'll get the buggger in there. Trouble is, I like to get several brews from several generations of the same yeast. Being too tight to spend another couple of euros will be my undoing, no doubt, but at least I get to know the yeasts thoroughly.
And I've just remembered I've got a "lucky dip" coming from Brewuk. Damn.

 

[cushyno]

Liberty Bell was one of the first yeasts I used last year and produced an ok ESB with it and used the slurry in the next batch which was a brown ale.

I harvested some of the year from the second brew to make two more brews. These didn't turn out so well, drinkable but not great, and the taste from the yeast became worse.

From experience, I would say M36 did add some fruitiness, but always use a fresh pack because it doesn't keep well when harvested.

 

[An Ankoù]

Liberty Bell was one of the first yeasts I used last year and produced an ok ESB with it and used the slurry in the next batch which was a brown ale.

I harvested some of the year from the second brew to make two more brews. These didn't turn out so well, drinkable but not great, and the taste from the yeast became worse.

From experience, I would say M36 did add some fruitiness, but always use a fresh pack because it doesn't keep well when harvested.

Thanks. That's good to know.

 

[ExpatBrewer]

... but always use a fresh pack because it doesn't keep well when harvested.

Interesting. I was starting to wonder the same thing myself actually. As much as I love this yeast I have noticed subsequent brews fermented with slurry from a previous batch have seemed a wee bit off. The latest one was actually a gusher, that of course could well be something else altogether, but I'll be paying closer attention when re-using this strain, and it may be that I too will end up using fresh packs each time.

 

[MyQul]

Liberty Bell was one of the first yeasts I used last year and produced an ok ESB with it and used the slurry in the next batch which was a brown ale.

I harvested some of the year from the second brew to make two more brews. These didn't turn out so well, drinkable but not great, and the taste from the yeast became worse.

From experience, I would say M36 did add some fruitiness, but always use a fresh pack because it doesn't keep well when harvested.

What's the krausen like? I'm just wondering if it's top crop-able so that might get around this problem

 

[Smileyr8]

What's the krausen like? I'm just wondering if it's top crop-able so that might get around this problem

I've used this yeast a number of times and attempted to top crop, I've found the Krausen to be very thin and difficult to extract from, this may be a timing issue on my part as it does ferment out very fast.

 

[MyQul]

I've used this yeast a number of times and attempted to top crop, I've found the Krausen to be very thin and difficult to extract from, this may be a timing issue on my part as it does ferment out very fast.

Thanks. Still havent used my pack of this. Waiting for my kitchen corner/brew area to get down to about 20C

 

[Braufather]

bump. just ordered this yeast on a whim, as given the name, thought it would be the equivilent of wyeast amercian ale ii (1272) which i was under the impression was from Anchor. it looks like most people that commented are using it in English ales though which has confused me! any ideas? or any more general comments since last post!

 

[Sadfield]

bump. just ordered this yeast on a whim, as given the name, thought it would be the equivilent of wyeast amercian ale ii (1272) which i was under the impression was from Anchor. it looks like most people that commented are using it in English ales though which has confused me! any ideas? or any more general comments since last post!

Anchor Liberty Ale is Fritz Maytag's (founder of the modern Anchor Brewery) take on a british ale. They brew in a very typically british way using open FV's with top fermenting yeast, thought to be from the UK.

 

[Braufather]

And is that the Wyeast strain too? 2272

 

[MickDundee]

And is that the Wyeast strain too? 2272

According to this 2272 is Anchor Liberty as well:
https://torontobrewing.ca/pages/yeast-strain-comparison-chart-white-labs-vs-wyeast

 

[Braufather]

So american ale ii is actually an English style strain then!