Luton Vauxhall plant will close in April

[Clint]

It's not a "British Gas" problem it's a problem full stop.
What about the driver who drives the van who finds he has to go electric? He can't charge his car at home...as millions won't be able to. So what happens there? It's a complete mess. There will be some bone head politician with an answer no doubt..like use public transport...that doesn't run the time you need it or go past where you're going...and on your day off...sit in your house..go NOWHERE. Oh,that sounds very familiar.

 

[Chippy_Tea]

For all those that hate EVs, local delivery drivers are absolutely ideal for going EV. The Post Office are massively investing in them, even in rural areas like I live in. They simply have banks of chargers.

Small vans (like Vivaros and smaller) have a range of around 250 miles. In real terms, these vans often don't do 100 miles a day, particularly in urban areas.

I remember speaking to someone who lived in Oxford who said that his DPD van rarely does more than 70 miles a day.
Over 1/3 of DPD vans are now fully EV.

Think about your local builder (let's call him Bob). Bob uses his van to get from one side of the city to the other - around 15 miles. Sometimes, he takes his van to the local merchants to pick up extra bits - say 5 miles. Then he goes home - 15 miles.
As it turns out, he picks up Bill which adds another 20 miles to his day.

He's doing 55 miles a day. I don't think an EV is an issue for him.

Or indeed a plumber (let's call him Peter). Peter does 6 jobs a day. Because he doesn't want to spend all day in his van, he cleverly makes sure he minimizes his travel time, so he does 5 miles between each job. Add on his 5 mile commute from the other side of town, and he's done 40 miles.

Hence why there are so many 20 year old vans on the road with relatively low mileage.

Not sure why you quoted me you said exactly what I did but used many more words to do it

 

[Chippy_Tea]

Can see the local hoodlums having fun leading the police on merry jaunts to run their batteries down

Are they not allowed to call for backup in a BEV

 

[Clint]

Are they not allowed to call for backup in a BEV

It'll be a pushbike.

 

[Stu]

Can see the local hoodlums having fun leading the police on merry jaunts to run their batteries down !

Can't really see that happening.

The local hoodlums are unlikely to be driving anything that can keep up with a Tesla Model 3 LR. And that's a bog standard BEV.

And if they do, it'll likely not have a range of 300 miles. Apparently, the average Police chase is over in a few minutes.

 

[Stu]

It's not a "British Gas" problem it's a problem full stop.
What about the driver who drives the van who finds he has to go electric? He can't charge his car at home...as millions won't be able to. So what happens there? It's a complete mess. There will be some bone head politician with an answer no doubt..like use public transport...that doesn't run the time you need it or go past where you're going...and on your day off...sit in your house..go NOWHERE. Oh,that sounds very familiar.

Somewhere between 30 and 40% can't charge at home. That'll soon change as we start getting on-street charging (as London already has).
DPD clearly don't have an issue, because their vans stay in yards. As do Royal Mail.

It is a British Gas problem, because their drivers keep the vans at home. If the driver doesn't have the ability to charge, they really shouldn't be giving him a BEV.

 

[old dog new tricks]

Can't really see that happening.

The local hoodlums are unlikely to be driving anything that can keep up with a Tesla Model 3 LR. And that's a bog standard BEV.

And if they do, it'll likely not have a range of 300 miles. Apparently, the average Police chase is over in a few minutes.

But they also work a long shift and most dirt bikes still leave a Tesla and can just kerbs etc that the weapon of choice or the electric version.

What I mean is on shift the police fill up at hand over normally as they use a lot of fuel especially on the motorway refilling EVs takes longer who covers while pc plod charges ? Plus how many forces can afford Tesla most have much more modest steers can you imagine the public outcry if the police order a fleet of expensive Tesla's that fall into the expensive tax bracket but pay did all and funded by the taxpayer.

With the endless tax and and attack on the working class something will crack it's not far away just look at the total disrespect for any sort of authority in this country the army of youtube clowns picking fights with coppers it's one step away from anarchy