Keg watch help?

[stee41]

I listed an old keg on ebay which was converted into a keggle I have been contacted by keg watch and they told me to stop the sale and ring them so they can collect it, whats the procedures here as this keg originally cost me good cash ?

puzzled :shock:

 

[Bru4u]

Did you buy it from an individual or a shop/company/scrapyard, don't suppose you have a recipt

 

[Vossy1]

Unfortunately I would imagine you'll be in the same position as anyone who buys/sells 'stolen' goods (whether knowingly or not) in that you will have lost your money, not fair but true :cry:
I'll be interested to know what the outcome is, as I'm sure you're not alone, keep us informed :thumb:

 

[Hawks]

Give them a ring and talk to them.

I have 2 casks from a brewery that went bankrupt, I bought them legit and phoned Kegwatch prior to handing over any money - they were really helpful have put on record that I own 2 of them.

 

[WelshPaul]

Forgive my ignorance here, but who are Keg Watch? Some kind of beer Mafia?

 

[Runwell-Steve]

Forgive my ignorance here, but who are Keg Watch? Some kind of beer Mafia?

Most Kegs belong to breweries, and they are expensive pieces of kit which breweries get very upset about when they go missing.

Keg watch http://www.kegwatch.co.uk/ work to recover these kegs and return them to their rightful owners.

When you buy a keg of beer, you are not buying the keg, just the beer inside it. The keg itself remains the property of the brewery that supplied you the beer.

 

[WelshPaul]

Damn, I was hoping that there was some kind of secret beer Mafia....

 

[The Ginger Ninja]

We could start one?


Damn secrets out

 

[WelshPaul]

Damn secrets out

I know it was you Fredo. You broke my heart. You broke my heart!

 

[The Ginger Ninja]

I know it was you Fredo. You broke my heart. You broke my heart!

:thumb:

 

[Darcey]

I purchased mine from my employer and have all the documentation and a printed email from operations director and procurement manager... but still just in case I hide mine away..

 

[Stone Cold]

Tell them they can have it if they bid te highest offer

 

[Keg_Watch]

Forgive my ignorance here, but who are Keg Watch? Some kind of beer Mafia?

Most Kegs belong to breweries, and they are expensive pieces of kit which breweries get very upset about when they go missing.

Keg watch http://www.kegwatch.co.uk/ work to recover these kegs and return them to their rightful owners.

When you buy a keg of beer, you are not buying the keg, just the beer inside it. The keg itself remains the property of the brewery that supplied you the beer.

You are quite right it is only the beer that you buy not the keg.

If you examine any keg(s) or cask(s) you will see that they remain the property of the owning brewery whose details are clearly engraved in the container. Often it is embossed in very large capital letters around the top of the containers and also on a plate that is welded to container. Further to that the coloured banding around the centre on the container allows for additional identification.

As people with a keen interest in brewing we would hope that you would support the brewing industry who loses millions of pounds each year through the theft and misappropriation of kegs/casks by advocating the return of their possessions.

Anyone in possession of a keg of cask should contact Keg Watch immediately and we will arrange recover of the item with no charge to yourselves.
The FREE PHONE number is 0808 100 1945.

 

[stee41]

Don't have a receipt etc as the keg was recovered from my sisters rear garden when she bought the house many years ago, it had a hole cut through the top already and on the side, I thought I could make use of it, it is damaged but not unusable and works as a keggle.
I spent good cash on the fittings and will be out of pocket after they take it from me, I have been told they attempt to sell the recovered kegs back to the brewery, whether this is true or not I don't really know but that seems pretty shallow if it is true regardless if they have overheads.

I would assume the breweries all pay a fee to keg watch to keep keg watch solvent how else can they raise funds, anyone know?

I was a keen brewer, its a shame I feel like a criminal, when I have not intentionally commited a criminal act.

The keg must be donkeys years old as I cant trace the brewery name anywhere, so what happens when the brewery no longer exists? what do keg watch do with the kegs? surely they must recycle them to raise funds?

This keg will be unusable as a keg and only worth scrap value due to the damage and holes in it, should we not have the option to buy the scrap value of the keg if the original owners are no longer in business?

I dont know about all this it seems logical but unfair at the same time (no doubt someone will again mention it has to have been stolen at some time) but what happens if it had legitimately been bought many years ago then just left in the brambles at the bottom of a garden,does anyone keep a record of the keg serial numbers etc, I bet not.

Ho hum, its seems like a lose the keg, lose my cash situation here. :wha:

 

[Vossy1]

Welcome to the forum Rachael and thank you for your advice, it's much appreciated :thumb:

 

[artyb]

Don't have a receipt etc as the keg was recovered from my sisters rear garden when she bought the house many years ago, it had a hole cut through the top already and on the side, I thought I could make use of it, it is damaged but not unusable and works as a keggle.
I spent good cash on the fittings and will be out of pocket after they take it from me, I have been told they attempt to sell the recovered kegs back to the brewery, whether this is true or not I don't really know but that seems pretty shallow if it is true regardless if they have overheads.

I would assume the breweries all pay a fee to keg watch to keep keg watch solvent how else can they raise funds, anyone know?

I was a keen brewer, its a shame I feel like a criminal, when I have not intentionally commited a criminal act.

The keg must be donkeys years old as I cant trace the brewery name anywhere, so what happens when the brewery no longer exists? what do keg watch do with the kegs? surely they must recycle them to raise funds?

This keg will be unusable as a keg and only worth scrap value due to the damage and holes in it, should we not have the option to buy the scrap value of the keg if the original owners are no longer in business?

I dont know about all this it seems logical but unfair at the same time (no doubt someone will again mention it has to have been stolen at some time) but what happens if it had legitimately been bought many years ago then just left in the brambles at the bottom of a garden,does anyone keep a record of the keg serial numbers etc, I bet not.

Ho hum, its seems like a lose the keg, lose my cash situation here. :wha:

its not really a keg any more, if it has holes in it...

 

[mashman]

Just to move this topic forward, there are acreddited scrap yards that are registered to dispose of old casks and kegs with the blessing of The British Beer & Pub Association and SIBA (Society of Indipendent Brewers Association).
I can't imagine that it would be beyond possibilities to purchase these kegs lgetimately.

If anyone needs to identify a cask by it's colour bands can do so by visiting.

http://www.beerandpub.com/cask/index.aspx

Most breweries would be happy for a phone call from anyone with old casks to hand back and can usually arrange to pick them up in passing. The one I work for does. :thumb:

 

[BarnsleyBrewer]

Last person I knew that damaged a keg got 6 months prison, you'll be lucky to get away with this......... Good Advice 4 Ya :whistle:

DON'T PICK UP THE SOAP IN THE SHOWER BLOCK

BB

 

[Darcey]

I heard that is the only remaining offence that carry's a death penalty :shock: ? Or did I just read that on the KegWatch website!? :whistle:

 

[stee41]

I never damaged it your Honour it was like that when I was given it gov !!

ok, a few questions for you, any answers to enlighten me would be appreciated...

So what happens when the brewery that originally owned the keg has long since closed down, who then has legal ownership of the so called 'Stolen' keg, surely it cant be returned to the rightful owners if they wont come forward and no longer exist! hmm ! :wha:

maybe I should've done this or should've done that,or rang the no longer in existence brewery and Kegwatch before using the damaged keg well how the heck are we supposed to know that? and I wasn't even aware of kegwatch until this!

Surely there has to be some cost effective common sense here, and how much will it cost to collect this damaged 'scrap' item, that has no 'rightful owner' (including myself and kegwatch in that phrase)

If Kegwatch is a public body, paid for by the public tax contributions, the freedom of information act would allow us to access where exactly the profit goes from selling/giving these recovered kegs back to their rightful owners and how the organisation works, or are they privately funded bailiffs in disguise...sheds a whole new light on any company if it is the second option.

My last words......."I'm all for stopping theft of property and have never ever been in trouble in my life.... so can I have a breakfast in a bun and a pint of my own AG brew as my last request" !! bring on the hooded hang man :pray: