Jeremy Corbyn

[Ale]

Even on this thread you can see the left using their normal tactic of name calling and scare mongering.

My earlier comment still stands, when we have a Labour government they overspend and when we get a Conservative government they make cuts to try to balance the books. We cant afford another round of Labour overspending at the moment as Blair and Brown overspent way too much in the last Labour government and increased borrowing even though that was in the boom years before the credit crunch.

And we have had the Institute for Fiscal Studies come out recently and say that Corbyns planned spending cannot be funded by the proposed increasing of tax on the rich, the figures just dont add up. They think tax increases will hit everyone.

 

[Gunge]

He is basically promising people loads of free s**t, that he will be unable to fund and people are too daft or self centred to give a s**t.
That's why he gets the young vote, they are used to being funded by someone else, so taking is their most natural reflex. Finding the money to cover the funding has been supplied by parents so they live in a false reality.

And when the cash has all been given away and the party's over, the tories come along to clean up - like those squads you see on teevee when a tornado has trashed some American midwest town. It's a cycle and it wants breaking. That's why I'm going UKIP, I know they've nil chance but it's gotta be better than not voting at all. The big 2 make me ill.

 

[pms67]

Tell that to the man on £6 per hour.
May=Thatcher mk11

 

[shepp]

Tell that to the man on ��£6 per hour.
May=Thatcher mk11

That man is raising his family subsidised with working tax credits.

I hope May is another Thatcher, she was the only British leader who won concessions from the EU. Such as the rebate, which was half handed back by Blair in return for EU presidency. Fortunately he turned out to be too toxic even for them.

 

[Gunge]

Tell that to the man on �£6 per hour.
May=Thatcher mk11

The man on £6 an hour (even if there is such a thing - ie on the books) will be getting gawd knows how much in tax credits. Lol I was there when Labour introduced that. We'd just had the kid and vast sums of money kept landing unannounced in my bank account! No idea where it was coming from until the letters started. Then they kept chucking money in monthly! Fabulous while it lasted but then they decided they'd paid way too much. Too late we'd blown the lot and their efforts to recover it continue to this day. Tossers.

 

[GhostShip]

Who could forget Liam Byrne's letter to the incoming Chief Secretary in 2010. One of the most irresponsible things I've ever seen in politics.

 

[pms67]

That man is raising his family subsidised with working tax credits.

I hope May is another Thatcher, she was the only British leader who won concessions from the EU. Such as the rebate, which was half handed back by Blair in return for EU presidency. Fortunately he turned out to be too toxic even for them.

The milk snatcher is best forgotten imo

 

[shepp]

The milk snatcher is best forgotten imo

So is the rebate snatcher along with the gold snatcher.

 

[Godsdog]

Tell that to the man on £6 per hour.
May=Thatcher mk11

Probably some illegal immigrant worker undercutting a bona fide GB worker being paid by some other unscrupulous back street immigrant employer

 

[Chippy_Tea]

For those not old enough to remember several years ago the Tories allowed people to buy their council houses where did all that money go as it certainly​ didn't​ go back into building more council houses and that is why people struggle to get a council house all these years later.

 

[Tanzanite]

I agree May skipping the debates isn't good but surley you realise Corbyn taking the last minute to go on is just a bit of spin. It works because it gives him the moral high ground and people are gulible to forget he was not going to do it just before..

In all seriousness to me Corbyn seems like a genuinely good guy to me.. I like a lot of what he says and stands for, It may be a perception thing but I worry about his toughness in tough situations though and what also worries me is he will get into bet with jimmy crankie in a hung parliment :sick: so if he is going to win it better be outright..

Interesting that there has been a few point drifts on the odds but traders are not believing the mass drift the polls suggest.. Never traded politics before but I was going to attempt it, too late now I think.

Trust me no F*****r whos not blind is going to get into bed with the Wee Krankie maybe a Pissed up Chimpanzee .

 

[chub1]

For those not old enough to remember several years ago the Tories allowed people to buy their council houses where did all that money go as it certainly​ didn't​ go back into building more council houses and that is why people struggle to get a council house all these years later.

Are council houses(as such) actually built these days.
What angers me with the whole lot of them is that none are getting to grips with the housing shortage.They all spout wonderful things but don't deliver.
When i go up to London it's just awash with building work,both offices which will probably stand empty for god knows how long and blocks of flats none of which can be afforded by the 'ordinary' person and instead go to the buy to let brigade who let em out at extortinate rents.
:twisted:

 

[Tanzanite]

Are council houses(as such) actually built these days.
What angers me with the whole lot of them is that none are getting to grips with the housing shortage.They all spout wonderful things but don't deliver.
When i go up to London it's just awash with building work,both offices which will probably stand empty for god knows how long and blocks of flats none of which can be afforded by the 'ordinary' person and instead go to the buy to let brigade who let em out at extortinate rents.
:twisted:

When the torys say they are going to build x amount of housing ie. has Camoron (pun intended) did, and May will also they all ways omit one word SOCIAL, the *******s build private housing half the population cant afford and its sold of to private buyers in the Tory arse licking bracket. err sorry i mean Brexit remainer Tory voter bracket

 

[trueblue]

Are council houses(as such) actually built these days.
What angers me with the whole lot of them is that none are getting to grips with the housing shortage.They all spout wonderful things but don't deliver.
When i go up to London it's just awash with building work,both offices which will probably stand empty for god knows how long and blocks of flats none of which can be afforded by the 'ordinary' person and instead go to the buy to let brigade who let em out at extortinate rents.
:twisted:

A lot of the London new builds are being sold to far eastern investors who keep them empty, so no rates are paid, as they are a good investment. I can remember a couple of years back seeing that great man of the people Boris Johnson at a far eastern trade fair promoting London property as an investment. When asked why he wasn't helping Londoners to get the property's his reply was these people are putting money into London, so f*ck the people, foreign money is more important, especially if you can get a slice of the cake.

 

[shepp]

Plenty wrong with the Tory's, I just know they are less likely to bankrupt the country.
Labours preferred Kensian economics system, that should involve saving when things are good and spending when things are bad, is not a good idea because unfortunately Labour only manage to fulfil the spending side of the system.
Be things good or bad, in fact they don't just spend when things are good, they borrow even more money to spend.

 

[terrym]

Wot I said on here on 23 May
"If the Labour party in its present form get in you all better be braced for
-significantly higher taxes to pay for the promised revolution cos the bankers, and businesses are not bottomless money pits
- increased power for the Labour Party's paymaster unions and we all know what that means, especially those who survived the three day week in the 70s and those who have had months of grief on disputes over 'safety' concerning the withdrawal of guards on trains.
- a wooly Brexit
- continued barely controlled immigration cos to control it will cost them votes in the future"
All this still still applies.
Jeremy Corbyn might appear to be 'a nice bloke' but he's a left wing career politician put into his position by left wing Marxist groups (Militant), who will expect him to deliver their programme, just like the Unions. Some of you may think that's OK, many don't. And political allies like Dianne Abbott who have supported him achieve his poisition will be rewarded, that's how politics works, not so much what you know, it's who you know.
Further if there is a hung parliament and Labour get an opportunity form a coalition goverment they will take it, and then there will be a mad scramble from all and sundry to join them, with a fudged programme of social and political change emerging for the UK, and yes that's all of the UK. That's what coalition goverment brings.
So think hard about the sweeties that the Labour Party manifesto has thrown our way and consider how that's going to be achieved and paid for short and long term, and how that will affect you, things like if business gets taxed to the hilt how that will affects your company or personal pension fund, or can you afford to pay more tax out of your pay packet.
In other words, as I said on 23 May, be careful what you wish for.

 

[chub1]

I really do not think i can vote.first time ever except for local election.
I can't vote Conservative,nor Lib Dem(have done so in local election as our local Counselor is very good) due to the national policies and nor Labour as i simply don't see Corbyn as a strong leader.

 

[pms67]

I never usually vote either but I cannot take May and her lot slowly killing off all disabled people whilst protecting the rich snobs=fact=end of

 

[pms67]

That man is raising his family subsidised with working tax credits.

I hope May is another Thatcher, she was the only British leader who won concessions from the EU. Such as the rebate, which was half handed back by Blair in return for EU presidency. Fortunately he turned out to be too toxic even for them.

I never thought I would here those words (your first six words of the second paragraph) but hey ho, that's why this forum promotes healthy debate I guess 👍
She's still evil though 😉😉😉😉

 

[Covrich]

I really do not think i can vote.first time ever except for local election.
I can't vote Conservative,nor Lib Dem(have done so in local election as our local Counciler is very good) due to the national policies and nor Labour as i simply don't see Corbyn as a strong leader.

I too feel lost.. I feel the same as yourself. I know a lot of people say go with you you identify with most but It feels more like go with the lesser of evils. Problem is I don't even know where the lesser evils are