No idea, @foxy and maybe @Agentgonzo put the idea in my head that there are optimal flavourful sugars extracted and then suboptimal bland ones, plus any potential not nice things like tannins etc...

No idea, @foxy and maybe @Agentgonzo put the idea in my head that there are optimal flavourful sugars extracted and then suboptimal bland ones, plus any potential not nice things like tannins etc...
Yes sugar and there areIt’s sugar we’re interested in with efficiency. Tannins come from the husks when heated above mash-out temperatures and when sparging if the runoff falls below about 1010. Maybe it’s this last point that’s most relevant - there comes a point where you can’t extract the last of the sugars without the runoff falling too low and picking up tannins.
This was where I was asking that kind of question. It's not obvious (or proven) to me that there is a direct correlation between sugar and "flavour compound" extraction when you increase your efficiencyYes sugar and there are
a lot of other things in there too, proteins, fat etc... I figure with high efficiency you also extract more of these as well.
Ah yes, I remember the discussion.This was where I was asking that kind of question. It's not obvious (or proven) to me that there is a direct correlation between sugar and "flavour compound" extraction when you increase your efficiency
https://www.thehomebrewforum.co.uk/threads/efficiency-and-flavour-extraction.101428/
What happend Clint, have you lost your mojo?The sight of the Pipster Pale makes me feel melancholy as I've not brewed since last August...I really need a good kick up the jacksey.
I think you use whole leaf hops right? Did you put them in a bag in the keg?Today I’m cleaning four kegs that are empty in readiness for a new batch of ales. The four kegs held a Czech Pilsner, Porter, Summer Breeze, and Butterfly Effect DIPA.
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Now here’s an interesting point for people afraid of leaving hops in their beer for too long when dry hopping…
Both Summer Breeze and Butterfly Effect are keg hopped and the hops stayed in the beer for 5 months. The beers never became grassy apart from the first couple of weeks the hops went in, after which it faded away.
So many things seem to be just repeated on the internet without any real knowledge. It's good to have first-hand experience like this.Now here’s an interesting point for people afraid of leaving hops in their beer for too long when dry hopping…
Both Summer Breeze and Butterfly Effect are keg hopped and the hops stayed in the beer for 5 months. The beers never became grassy apart from the first couple of weeks the hops went in, after which it faded away.
That’s right, I use whole leaf hops because I don’t want a dip tube clogged with hop debris.I think you use whole leaf hops right? Did you put them in a bag in the keg?
I think if the hops do make a person’s beer grassy they’re probably using hops that have a grassy character to their flavour profileSo many things seem to be just repeated on the internet without any real knowledge. It's good to have first-hand experience like this.![]()
Mine was a simcoe/citra blend. It faded during normal bottle conditioning.I think if the hops do make your beer grassy you’re probably using hops that have a grassy character to their flavour profile![]()
Sorry, I didn’t mean “you”, I’ve rephrased the post.Mine was a simcoe/citra blend. It faded during normal bottle conditioning.
No, I got that. I just figured it was useful to say which ones I had used.Sorry, I didn’t mean “you”, I’ve rephrased the post.
Did you use pellets? I would imagine this might also be a potential issue.No, I got that. I just figured it was useful to say which ones I had used.
I did. In a canister like you had in your previous pic.Did you use pellets? I would imagine this might also be a potential issue.
Not me askingI did. In a canister like you had in your previous pic.