Guinness

[user 17085]

T'internet says 3.9. I'd have thought, mashing with low Alkalinity and then pitching in a load of acidic dark wort would add a certain acidic tang, along with lactic produced by yeast pushing the pH quite low. My gut feeling would be, any lactic addition would be to keep their output within a tight specification.

 

[An Ankoù]

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Thanks , Chippy.
Sour Grapes malt is Acidulated Malt.

 

[Bosch]

According to Blindboy, the Irish obsession is a type of soft nationalism in a nation without a real food culture;

Really, Ireland’s fixation with the perfect pint of Guinness is a type of harmless soft nationalism, according to satirist and podcaster Blindboy Boatclub. This is especially common among the diaspora or emigrants, who take pride in promoting products associated with their homeland.

“The idea that the actual quality of Guinness outside of Ireland is drastically different to what you get at home is something we lean into a bit as an act of performance,” says Blindboy, whose work often discusses Irish identity. “In the absence of a national food culture, a pint of plain is your only man.”

 

[Twostage]

Funny thing that, Guinness was made with a percentage of stale beer, returns from pubs back in the day. It was this that gave Guinness its complexity. So for a quick turnaround after fermentation has finished are they adding lactic acid as some suggest? I may try that by splitting my next batch. 3-4 ml per 19 litres, so I will try 2ml for 10 litres

According to the Guinness yeast research paper that was on here a few weeks ago their yeast is phenolic off-flavour positive (POF+). That might give it a twang maybe ?

 

[Rodcx500z]

I don't like Guinness, but i love love Murphys and Beamish

 

[Bosch]

I don't like Guinness, but i love love Murphys and Beamish

I would like Guiness but have a fondness for Murphys. They use to sell it in draught at theatres in Dublin. It seems to have been replaced by 'Irelands Edge' stout.

 

[Brew_DD2]

I don't like Guinness, but i love love Murphys and Beamish

Beamish is excellent. It's like a dagger through the heart that they focus on the domestic market only.

 

[Bosch]

Beamish is excellent. It's like a dagger through the heart that they focus on the domestic market only.

Beamish is a minnow. Only really popular in Cork and surrounding counties. Guinness, since its very foundation, was brewed for export to the British empire (Guinness family were staunchly unionist and anti Irish Independence)

 

[user 17085]

It seems to have been replaced by 'Irelands Edge' stout.

I've just goggled that as I'd never heard of it. Looks like it's been edged out.
https://www.just-drinks.com/news/heineken-pulls-islands-edge-stout-from-ireland/?cf-view

Interesting list of ingredients.

Water, Malted Barley, Barley, Malted Wheat, Hop extract, Black tea extract, Basil extract.

 

[Bosch]

I've just goggled that as I'd never heard of it. Looks like it's been edged out.
https://www.just-drinks.com/news/heineken-pulls-islands-edge-stout-from-ireland/?cf-view

Interesting list of ingredients.

Water, Malted Barley, Barley, Malted Wheat, Hop extract, Black tea extract, Basil extract.

Thank God.
It was marketed here very heavily, trying to get a cut of the Guinness market. Wished they just marketed Murphgs more (or Beamish)

 

[foxy]

file:///C:/Users/Owner/Downloads/The%20Magic%20Guinness%20Blend%20c.1939.html

Just type into Google The Magic of Guinness blend 1939

 

[prog99]

file:///C:/Users/Owner/Downloads/The%20Magic%20Guinness%20Blend%20c.1939.html

Just type into Google The Magic of Guinness blend 1939

https://www.thehomebrewforum.co.uk/threads/guiness-clone.90810/post-969728
Here as well.

 

[Davegase]

Beamish is excellent. It's like a dagger through the heart that they focus on the domestic market only.

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Who remembers this ?

 

[marshbrewer]

Proper English Carling doesn't travel well, said no one ever.

To be fair, the Carling doesn't travel well. It's ***** the moment it leaves the factory gate

(Truthfully, I'm not so sure Carling is any worse than any other mid range macro lager, and better than some of the 'big boys " - Heineken, I'm looking at you)

 

[Jim Brewster]

To me it tastes the same in the bar at the top of the brewery, in the Lobster in Waterville or at locals around here. I bit of a dissapointing revelation having hoped the myths were true.

Same here, I'd always heard how it wasn't as good here as in Ireland, the first pint I had over there and I thought "It's exactly the same". I fell for the hype, then the cynic in me took over - it's brewed on an industrial scale for a global market, kegged and served cold, of course it's the same.

 

[Donegal john]

Same here, I'd always heard how it wasn't as good here as in Ireland, the first pint I had over there and I thought "It's exactly the same". I fell for the hype, then the cynic in me took over - it's brewed on an industrial scale for a global market, kegged and served cold, of course it's the same.

There is a lot to be said for how it’s stored and served. I’ve had my best and worst pints of Guinness in Ireland. It can be poles apart just like any pint served anywhere in the world. There’s good and bad
There is also a lot of good marketing behind it.

 

[The Baron]

Yep marketing ploy it's all the same but like any beer it is only as good as the landlord oh and cellars play a big part in it too

 

[Davegase]

Yep marketing ploy it's all the same but like any beer it is only as good as the landlord oh and cellars play a big part in it too

But the skill level is far more important with a cask conditioned ale ! That's why keg and nitro have taken over. Keg beer doesn't have the stigma that it used to have because of the craft beer Revolution.

 

[Dark Arts]

Having seen Brewdog Black Heart in the supermarket i decided to give it try (after my Guinness fail) as some reviewers said it wasn't as bitter and has a bit more of a coffee and chocolate flavour than Guinness, i tried one earlier and i do not agree to me it tastes as awful as Guinness so another fail by me, so off back to the shop for a couple of bottles of Guinness West indies Porter for later now this stuff i could drink all night


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You tried FRGD?, asda exclusive at the mo and it's better than black heart and Guinness IMHO

 

[Chippy_Tea]

You tried FRGD?, asda exclusive at the mo and it's better than black heart and Guinness IMHO

No i have decided to give up on Guinness or similar beers, i regularly drink Old Peculier, Guinness west indies porter and Badgers Master stoat which i enjoy.