GrainFather v other systems.

[kelper]

Grainfather is £672 at homebrew shop online. Anyone aware of any better deals ?

£667 at the Malt Miller with free delivery! https://www.themaltmiller.co.uk/pro...nt/the-grainfather-all-in-one-brewing-system/

 

[foxy]

The distributor in Australia is KegLand. They self-certify that it complies with AS/NZ 60335.2.15. It does not need to be registered with that database by my understanding. This is the same for CE marked equipment, most of it is self-certified by the manufacturer or importer. It does not require approval by a certifying authority.

The law changed on April 1 st 2019 for Australia, bringing in more strict approvals in line with Tasmania and Queensland. What is also odd is the Robobrew 3 and the 3.1 carry the same number, even though the screen and circuit board have been modified in the 3.1 so therefore should have different numbers.

 

[kelper]

The law changed on April 1 st 2019 for Australia, bringing in more strict approvals in line with Tasmania and Queensland. What is also odd is the Robobrew 3 and the 3.1 carry the same number, even though the screen and circuit board have been modified in the 3.1 so therefore should have different numbers.

Which number are you referring to?

 

[gilund]

Grainfather is £672 at homebrew shop online. Anyone aware of any better deals ?

£656 at https://www.thebrewshop.com/contents/en-uk/p2125_The_Grainfather.html

 

[foxy]

Which number are you referring to?

Model number and CE approval number, not Keg Lands problem, it is the importer who's responsible for making sure the approval certificate is in order.

 

[kelper]

KegLand is the importer..............

 

[foxy]

KegLand is the importer..............

So has KegLand got a registered company in the UK?

 

[kelper]

The UK importer is BrewKegTap; I've written to them to ask for a 'Declaration of Conformity'. But I think the Chinese manufacturer has done the CE approval process because ZICS is a Chinese company that does all the work for manufacturers. Its website is interesting. https://www.zics.cn/

I apologise for repeating this but it's for the benefit of the lass who has just bought one and is worried by this discussion on Robobrew's certification (in another thread) https://www.thehomebrewforum.co.uk/threads/robobrew.81601/

 

[foxy]

The UK importer is BrewKegTap; I've written to them to ask for a 'Declaration of Conformity'. But I think the Chinese manufacturer has done the CE approval process because ZICS is a Chinese company that does all the work for manufacturers. Its website is interesting. https://www.zics.cn/

I apologise for repeating this but it's for the benefit of the lass who has just bought one and is worried by this discussion on Robobrew's certification (in another thread) https://www.thehomebrewforum.co.uk/threads/robobrew.81601/

That's right ZICS has done the approval, they did it for the Robobrew 3 and strangely enough the Robobrew 3.1 is carrying the same CE number.

 

[Bex Brew]

The UK importer is BrewKegTap; I've written to them to ask for a 'Declaration of Conformity'. But I think the Chinese manufacturer has done the CE approval process because ZICS is a Chinese company that does all the work for manufacturers. Its website is interesting. https://www.zics.cn/

I apologise for repeating this but it's for the benefit of the lass who has just bought one and is worried by this discussion on Robobrew's certification (in another thread) https://www.thehomebrewforum.co.uk/threads/robobrew.81601/

Thank you Kelper. Much appreciated.

 

[kelper]

I have seen the 'Declaration of Conformity' for the CE marking. The Robobrew sold in the UK is fully compliant.

@Bex Brew - please allow members here to start a conversation with you under your profile...privacy. Then I can send you the proof that the Robobrew is properly certified for sale in the UK.

 

[Bex Brew]

I have seen the 'Declaration of Conformity' for the CE marking. The Robobrew sold in the UK is fully compliant.

@Bex Brew - please allow members here to start a conversation with you under your profile...privacy. Then I can send you the proof that the Robobrew is properly certified for sale in the UK.

Thank you Kelper, I really appreciate it. I'll have a look at my privacy settings.

I thought all would be ok, just a slight doubt with the comments. Received the Robobrew today and it looks pretty smart. I look forward to playing with my new toy. So many plans and ideas. I have some unhopped liquid extract that I bought in bulk that needs using, so I'm tempted to use that first and pimp it up with hops so I can get used to the settings etc. Then I'll have a go at the proper all grain. Thinking of using the Malt Miller to purchase my Grains. Not used them before, but I like the variety.

 

[Bex Brew]

@Bex Brew - please allow members here to start a conversation with you under your profile...privacy. Then I can send you the proof that the Robobrew is properly certified for sale in the UK.

It looks like my privacy settings allow conversations by all members

 

[David Heath]

It really should be a given that no retailer is going to sell equipment that is not CE approved. This would be business suicide.

 

[kelper]

It looks like my privacy settings allow conversations by all members

I still can't 'start a conversation' with you.

 

[Bex Brew]

How odd. I'll check it again.

 

[kelper]

It really should be a given that no retailer is going to sell equipment that is not CE approved. This would be business suicide.

David, with respect, you keep saying this but Amazon has had to stop selling dozens of chargers that were dangerous. Any unscrupulous seller on eBay or Amazon Marketplace can claim his goods have CE.

 

[David Heath]

David, with respect, you keep saying this but Amazon has had to stop selling dozens of chargers that were dangerous. Any unscrupulous seller on eBay or Amazon Marketplace can claim his goods have CE.

Ok, fair point, just seems rather crazy to me!

 

[Bex Brew]

Just to note, all has been approved and ok with regards to the Robobrew. There was just a slight doubt from myself because of questioning on this forum regarding the certification of the product. The owner of the UK supplier has been in contact and I am happy with his response. If anybody else has questions regarding this product, I'm sure he'd be happy to answer

 

[Druncan]

All in two?
http://www.brewiks.com/beer-brewing-equipment/
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