General Election stuff

[unclepumble]

Labour have hocked the country ever since they gained power in the early part of the 20th century,
1, Borrowed billions to set up welfare state, just after the war, (and put us for ever in the debt of the USA)
2, Opened up borders to commenwealth country's then could not deal with the massive influx of immigration.
3, Broke the country under Wilson and chancellor Dennis Healey in the seventies bringing the country to its knees.
4, Sold the gold reserves, (advertising the fact allowing the market price to fall to a record low the day before the sale loosing billions in the process)
5, Took us into the Iraq conflict, (How much has this cost us, & what benefit does the uk get from it Cheaper Oil Prices? :wha: :nono: )
6, Yet again opened the floodgates to mass immigration, without the infrastructure or money to deal with it.
7, Allowed the banks to deal in such a way in this country, that we are now facing one of the biggest financial crisis we have ever faced, then said they had no control or are in no way to blame for the problems, (lets face it it was the big looser's that GB had the biggest influence in, Halifax, LLoyds TSB, RBS, the heads of those banks are all doing just fine after walking away on massive pensions etc, something the GOV could have done something about but chose not too, maybe If they had a few more whistles may have been blown)
8, Done nothing about increasing industry, or manufacturing, If left to weave the web they are on they will bury UK manufacturing.

You forget the following bits:

9, Destroyed our civil liberties. You can now be denied, without trial, access to the internet. You can be locked up for months without being charged. You can be refused a job on the basis that you are male/white/heterosexual etc. You can be stopped and searched by the police without any reason being given. Peaceful protestors can fully expect to be beaten by the police, sometimes to death, or violently arrested for no reason other than to challenge the actions of the stasi-oops-sorry-I-mean-old-bill.

10, Destroyed our pensions. Once the envy of the developed world, our pensions are now worthless. Even the public sector pensions are unfunded. We can all look forward to being old and poor. If you dont like the taste of cat food, better take up smoking.

11, Squandered our diplomatic capital by poodling up to the US on every issue including Iraq. Now the US refuses to offer us even tacit support over the latest Falkland Islands saber-rattiling.

12, Priced an entire generation out of ever owning their own home. The average home now costs over 10x the median average wage.

Great.

Thanks Labour.

The tories are little better though. I'll be voting UKIP or indie. And to those who say a vote to UKIP or the indies is a wasted vote should really think about wether theres any real difference between the big three parties at all, on a practical level, and think what would happen if other smaller parties and indies accrued more votes than the big three.

You forgot to mention theat the uk now has the most extensive camera based servailance system in the wholeworld,your every move is being watched, you can have someone on a tannoy telling you your t-shirt is offensive etc.

UKIP have lost my interest since announcing a flat 31% income tax rate.

UP

 

[Aleman]

While walking down the street one day a "Member of Parliament" is tragically hit by a truck and dies.

His soul arrives in heaven and is met by St. Peter at the entrance.

'Welcome to heaven, 'says St. Peter.' Before you settle in, it seems there is a problem. We seldom see a high official around these parts, you see, so we ' re not sure what to do with you.'

'No problem, just let me in,' says the man.

'Well, I 'd like to, but I have orders from higher up. What we'll do is have you spend one day in hell and one in heaven. Then you can choose where to spend eternity.'

'Really, I've made up my mind. I want to be in heaven,' says the MP.

'I'm sorry, but we have our rules.'

And with that, St. Peter escorts him to the elevator and he goes down, down, down to hell. The doors open and he finds himself in the middle of a green golf course. In the distance is a clubhouse and standing in front of it are all his friends and other politicians who had worked with him.

Everyone is very happy and in evening dress. They run to greet him, shake his hand, and reminisce about the good times they had while getting rich at the expense of the people.

They play a friendly game of golf and then dine on lobster, caviar and champagne.

Also present is the devil, who really is a very friendly & nice guy who has a good time dancing and telling jokes. They are having such a good time that before he realizes it, it is time to go.

Everyone gives him a hearty farewell and waves while the elevator rises....

The elevator goes up, up, up and the door reopens on heaven where St. Peter is waiting for him.

'Now it's time to visit heaven.'

So, 24 hours pass with the MP joining a group of contented souls moving from cloud to cloud, playing the harp and singing. They have a good time and, before he realizes it, the 24 hours have gone by and St. Peter returns.

'Well, then, you've spent a day in hell and another in heaven. Now choose your eternity.'

The MP reflects for a minute, then he answers: 'Well, I would never have said it before, I mean heaven has been delightful, but I think I would be better off in hell.'

So St. Peter escorts him to the elevator and he goes down, down, down to hell.

Now the doors of the elevator open and he's in the middle of a barren land covered with waste and garbage.

He sees all his friends, dressed in rags, picking up the trash and putting it in black bags as more trash falls from above.

The devil comes over to him and puts his arm around his shoulder. 'I don't understand, 'stammers the MP.' Yesterday I was here and there was a golf course and clubhouse, and we ate lobster and caviar, drank champagne, and danced and had a great time. Now there's just a wasteland full of garbage and my friends look miserable.

What happened?'

The devil looks at him, smiles and says, 'Yesterday we were campaigning.....


'Today you voted.'

 

[Aleman]

This is the most serious risk to your health since the 1918 flu epidemic..



Gonorrhea Lectim

The Center for Disease Control has issued a warning about a new virulent strain of Stupidly Transmitted Disease. The disease is contracted through dangerous and high-risk behavior such as believing politicians, pundits and talking-heads. The disease is called Gonorrhea Lectim..and pronounced "gonna re-elect ‘em."

Many contracted it in 2008 even after having been screwed for the previous two years by the carriers. Naturalists and epidemiologists are amazed at how this destructive disease has become so widespread since it can be so easily cured...by voting out all incumbents!

 

[snail59]

I Will be Voting for the Icelandic Volcano Party. It's done more to hault immigration in 5 days then Labour have done in 13 years.

 

[EskiBrew]

I Will be Voting for the Icelandic Volcano Party. It's done more to hault immigration in 5 days then Labour have done in 13 years.

:lol:

 

[jonewer]

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UKIP have lost my interest since announcing a flat 31% income tax rate.

Do you mind if I ask why? Are you opposed to flat taxes per se or is it the rate?

 

[snail59]

UKIP have lost my interest since announcing a flat 31% income tax rate.

UP

Income tax 20% National Insurance 12.8% = 32.8% Where's your problem UP???????.

 

[Aleman]

Thing is if we want a health service like Scandinavia and Education / Childcare / Paternity / maternity leave like these countries then we are going to have to have a tax rate appropriate (and theirs is something like 55%) . . . You can't do top quality on beer money

 

[unclepumble]

UKIP have lost my interest since announcing a flat 31% income tax rate.

UP

Income tax 20% National Insurance 12.8% = 32.8% Where's your problem UP???????.

I no longer have one I assumed it was 31% flat tax then National insurance on top :shock:

I would still like to see a flat tax around 20% all in,

No benefits apart from food stamps
No state pensions
No free Healthcare to anyone other than pensioners and under 18's

Privatise all healthcare, then use the funds to provide everyone with a healthy health insurance package, then you can choose to keep it up by paying in from your wage, If you don't want to pay in fine, then don't expect treatment.

If you want a pension then take out a private pension scheme.

The above would free up employers from massive tax burdens, create jobs and make the economy much healthier, we would not need to all pay so much tax.

Also the benefit would be seen by people who are prepared to work and pay their way rather than the ones who are not.

I am erring towards UKIP the more I read about them, The LIB Dems will never get my vote too pro europe and joining the euro.
UP

 

[snail59]

No it's 31% ALL IN :thumb: . I would like to see a tax ststem like the Danes had (not sure if they still do) 15 years ago. NO INCOME TAX but a higher level of VAT. CANT AVOID THAT CAN YOU. :clap:

 

[jonewer]

Thing is if we want a health service like Scandinavia and Education / Childcare / Paternity / maternity leave like these countries then we are going to have to have a tax rate appropriate (and theirs is something like 55%) . . . You can't do top quality on beer money

The point is that in the Scandanavian countries they pay a lot of tax but they get a lot out. Loadsa top-class free stuff like you mention above plus low-cost super-efficient public transport. They also re-train and invest in their own people rather than chucking them on the dung heap of benefits.

Compare that to here where, all in, our own tax rate isnt that much lower, but we get rubbish public services and massively expensive public transport for which we pay through the nose. And here, the government would rather import minimum wage labour from abroad en mass and pay people to sit around on their backsides drinking Special Brew and smoking Lamert & Butler than re-train them to do the work that is required.