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Glazers haven't provided any personal finance though.
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Overnight, utd went from the richest club in the world to the most indebted club in the world. Quite how that was seen as good business, is beyond me.
David Gill said as much when the Glazier's first approached utd. Then, for some reason, he changed his mind.
The Glazier's are parasites.
David Gill said as much when the Glazier's first approached utd. Then, for some reason, he changed his mind.
The Glazier's are parasites.
How many united fans don't want Radcliff to buy the club because you will (as you accused us) have sold your sole and bought any future success?
https://www.espn.com/soccer/manches...lionaire-ratcliffe-confirms-takeover-interest
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I personally haven't said such things. What the owners have done to the club in the background and for local area is massive.
I am not sure what views United fans have but I guess he is a local man so that is better than someone who might not have ever been to Manchester, but he did try to buy Chelsea and a season ticket holder there so that won't go down well. Also at no point as he said he would through billions into the club. I think spending on the facilities is a priority.
I wouldn't judge anything on the idiots that ring into 5live
Its was not on 5 live it was on the Man City forums which were swamped with fans of all clubs slating the sale, i wonder what the views of those united fans who were so vocal on our forums would be now its about to happen to them.
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How do you know that they were United fans? Trolls not fans. What you mean by its about to happen to them? United have had previous takeovers, doesn't mean they will spend well above their means.
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I assume the ones on the united forums were!
How does that work?
United have an overall debt of around £1billion, with the Glazers taking more money out of the club than putting in -
https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/1710662/Manchester-United-news-the-Glazers-takeover-debt
This makes interesting reading -
2019-20:
Man Utd – £120.2mMan City – £88m
2020-21:
Man City – £91.5mMan Utd – £61.6m
2021-22:
Man Utd – £98.4mMan City – £36.6m
2022-23:
Man Utd – £206mMan City – £18.4m
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What do those yearly numbers represent? Spend, profit, wages?
I watched the first half and it wasn't good, had to go out and missed the all the goals, Pep needs to get this sorted and soon.
Manchester City's night of mood swings ended with a remarkable outpouring from manager Pep Guardiola as he virtually presented a list of demands to the entire club for a return to previous sky-high standards.
It was not delivered in any sinister way but, having watched the reigning champions turn a 2-0 half-time deficit into a chaotic 4-2 win, an animated and passionate Guardiola felt it was time to strike publicly as he reminded everyone at Manchester City that what he has been seeing has not been good enough.
City closed the gap on leaders Arsenal to five points but Guardiola has seen enough in recent weeks to launch a remarkable stream of consciousness in the direction of anyone who would listen.
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Manchester City's night of mood swings ended with a remarkable outpouring from manager Pep Guardiola as he virtually presented a list of demands to the entire club for a return to previous sky-high standards.
It was not delivered in any sinister way but, having watched the reigning champions turn a 2-0 half-time deficit into a chaotic 4-2 win, an animated and passionate Guardiola felt it was time to strike publicly as he reminded everyone at Manchester City that what he has been seeing has not been good enough.
City closed the gap on leaders Arsenal to five points but Guardiola has seen enough in recent weeks to launch a remarkable stream of consciousness in the direction of anyone who would listen.
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Why are you trolling united forums..
Debt doesn't mean spending. Glazers are removing profit as share dividend.
Not sure what the figures refer to.csn you explain. Is that profit?
You assume way to much.
Who said I was trolling Untied forums?
City fans were posted links on our forums to bitter rags posts in the United forums spitting their dummy's out over the oil money, I am not registered on any rag forum so how am I trolling?.
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Thanks for clearing it up. Have a good day
I am listening to the Liverpool Vs Chelsea game on the radio and it souds like Chelsea have had the upper hand so far, can I ask Liverpool fans (not trolling) what has gone wrong this season?
One member suggested the age of the squad but I don't see how one season could make such a difference, is there any problems in the dressing room?
One member suggested the age of the squad but I don't see how one season could make such a difference, is there any problems in the dressing room?
Premier League: The key stats as the 2022-23 title race hits halfway point
By Harry BBC Sport20 January 202320 January 2023
Surprised by developments in the Premier League this season? Or is it all panning out just as you expected?
The 2022-23 campaign has returned in full force following the World Cup break and, with the halfway point upon us, there has been much to reflect on since Arsenal beat Crystal Palace in the opening match in early August.
But can the Gunners hold on to their lead? Are there any records Erling Haaland won't break? And will Sven Botman ever taste defeat?
Here, BBC Sport takes a look at what we've learned so far in this season's Premier League - and what that could tell us about what is yet to come. You can also have your say on who will lift the trophy at the end...
History tells us Arsenal should go on to win the title from here.
The Gunners have become only the seventh team in English top-flight history to take as many as 47 points from their first 18 games (adjusted to three points for a win).
Only Liverpool, in 2018-19 (48 points), have made a start that good and failed to lift the trophy.
Mikel Arteta's side, fifth last term, held an eight-point advantage over Manchester City prior to the defending champions' win over Tottenham on Thursday, when both sides had played an equal number of games. In the Premier League era, five clubs have previously had a lead at least that big after 18 games or more and only one - Norwich City in 1992-93 (eight points) - did not finish top.
A key factor in Arsenal's title bid will be whether Bukayo Saka and Martin Odegaard can maintain their sparkling form.
Playing in the team with the youngest average starting age in the division (24 years 237 days), the pair lead the way for total goals and assists among Premier League midfielders with 13 each - matched only by Manchester City's Kevin de Bruyne.
Their importance to Arsenal's play is evident. Only De Bruyne (24) has regained possession more times in the final third than Odegaard (21), while again only the City midfielder can match Saka's tally of 16 chance created-ending carries - the term used to describe any time a chance is created after a player carries the ball.
Haaland destroying records as Man City chase
Looking to deny former assistant Arteta, Pep Guardiola and a Manchester City team bolstered by the arrival of Norwegian goal machine Haaland lead the chase as they pursue a fifth title in six seasons.
Many would have fancied former Borussia Dortmund striker Haaland to continue to find the net freely at City, but did anyone expect him to do quite this well?
He has already smashed a host of records in his short time in England and, with 22 goals in 18 league appearances already, it's likely many more will fall.
The Premier League scoring record in a single season is 34 goals, while the record for a Premier League player across all competitions in a season is 44. Perhaps only Dixie Dean's 1928 league record of 60 goals in a season remains out of reach.
Perhaps no stat better demonstrates Haaland's devastating influence than this: He has scored one Premier League goal for every 20 touches of the ball. That's the fewest touches per goal in the competition in a single season (covering all players with a minimum of 50 touches in a season).
It is that ruthless efficiency which has seen him score the most goals by a player in their first 10 Premier League games (15), and require the fewest games to reach 20 goals (14).
The 22-year-old has the biggest expected goals (xG) differential of any player, scoring 6.5 more goals than would have been expected so far this campaign. If top assister De Bruyne keeps on providing the service, expect Haaland to continue to fuel City's title challenge.
And, ominously for leaders Arsenal, second-placed City are responsible for the two biggest title comebacks this century - triumphing from nine points behind in 2014 and 10 points back in 2019.
A tale of two transfers at Old Trafford
After a shaky start, the future is beginning to look bright for Manchester United under Erik ten Hag.Since losing their first two games, no team has won more Premier League points than the Red Devils, and the abrupt high-profile departure of club great Cristiano Ronaldo in November has certainly not derailed the club's on-field progress. In fact, the opposite appears to be true.
United's win percentage with Ronaldo in the team this season was a measly 25%. Without him, that figure rises to 73.3%. They've averaged more goals scored, fewer goals conceded, and have taken an average of 2.3 points per game - compared with just one when he was present.
The upturn in form, which has moved them into the title picture, has coincided with the integration of £70m signing Casemiro.
United's win percentage with Casemiro in the team is 66.7%, compared with 57% in the matches he missed, while their average goals conceded per game without the Brazil midfielder in the starting XI is two. With him, it's 0.7 goals.
Among defensive midfielders, the 30-year-old has started the second-highest number of open play sequences resulting in a shot in the Premier League this season (23) despite not making his first start until 9 October.
He's also won the second-highest number of duels (92), and made the second-highest number of tackles (49), while only two midfielders have regained possession on more occasions than Casemiro (94) since that first start.
The concern for United, eight points behind Arsenal, is how much they will miss their suspended midfield star against Arsenal at Emirates Stadium on Sunday as they aim to keep alive their hopes of ending a decade-long title drought.
Newcastle's lucky charm
Although the Saudi Arabian-backed takeover has made Newcastle one of the world's richest clubs, it has still taken Eddie Howe remarkably little time to turn them from relegation candidates to top-four challengers - and potentially more.The Magpies' 38 points after 19 games represents the club's best start for 22 years - and the fifth-best in their top-flight history.
Their one defeat is a joint-best with leaders Arsenal, their 11 goals conceded is a league-low - and the fewest at this stage in the club's entire top-flight history - while Nick Pope leads the way among goalkeepers with 11 clean sheets.
Their secret? Well, it may well be Botman.
The Dutch defender, 22, is yet to lose in the Premier League since coming into the team 17 games ago. That's the most matches played in the competition's history without ever losing.
And what about Miguel Almiron?
The Paraguayan appears to have responded quite emphatically to Jack Grealish's unprovoked pop at him last summer.
Almiron, who is proving a bit of fantasy football gem this term, has already equalled his total goal tally from his previous three Premier League seasons combined.
He reached nine goals after just 16 games in 2022-23 - despite taking 110 games to score his first nine. Take that, Jack.
Poll vote @ 04:09 21/1/2023
With half the season gone who will win this season's Premier League?
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FULL-TIME
Man City 3-0 WolvesErling Haaland's hat-trick is the difference as City gain all three points.
Could have done with united winning today even though its hard to say out loud 
Frank Lampard: Everton manager sacked after defeat by West Ham
By Phil McNultyChiefDefeat at fellow strugglers West Ham United on Saturday was Everton's ninth loss in 12 Premier League games.
They are second from bottom of the table with 15 points from 20 matches, above Southampton on goal difference.
Former England midfielder Lampard, 44, replaced Rafael Benitez in January 2022 with the team 16th in the table and helped Everton avoid relegation.
Everton are now looking for their sixth permanent manager in five years.
After a 1-1 draw at reigning champions Manchester City on 31 December, Everton have lost 4-1 to Brighton at Goodison Park, were knocked out of the FA Cup with a 3-1 defeat at Manchester United and were then beaten by Southampton despite taking the lead, before the latest defeat by West Ham.
They have managed only three wins all season.
There have been widespread and vocal protests from fans against the board in recent games, and supporters staged a sit-in demonstration after the loss to Southampton.
Everton's board of directors missed that game because of what the club claimed was a "real and credible threat to their safety".
Merseyside Police said no threats or incidents had been reported to officers prior to the fixture before Everton announced "enhanced security procedures" would be put in place.
That was also in response to some supporters confronting defender Yerry Mina and midfielder Anthony Gordon as they left Goodison Park in their cars last weekend.
Everton owner Farhad Moshiri attended his first game in 14 months at West Ham, along with much-criticised long-serving chairman Bill Kenwright. Moshiri suggested, when questioned by Sky Sports at the game, that it was not down to him decide on Lampard's future.
The club are yet to sign anyone in the January transfer window but spent in excess of £80m in the summer, including the £33m signing of Amadou Onana from Lille and £20m purchase of Dwight McNeil from Burnley, after receiving £60m for Brazil forward Richarlison from Tottenham.
Can't see anybody beating Arsenal at the moment, still don't understand why city (was hard to say that word) let Jesus and that Ukrainian fella go to them
We can only have so many players in the squad and obviously they were the ones that it was decided are the weakest links.
We are second a possible 8 points behind (they have game in hand) and we have a +8 GD.
We also have to play them twice if we win both its going to make it very tight at the end.
The main thing the pundits are discussing is depth of squad a couple of injuries could blow it for them.
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