Electric cars.

[Laner]

Only 50 mpg from a diesel, was this your previous car?

I wish…. No, an old fiat only used around town on very very short runs. We use the Beemer ‘M’ on long runs

 

[Benfleet Brewery]

Rubbish.

Unit rate on the price cap is currently 24.86 pence/kWh.

My EV (Hyundai Kona Electric) does 3.5-4m/kWh, meaning it costs 7.1-6.2 pence per mile if on the price cap rate.

My previous ICE car (VW Golf 1.4) would do 300-400 miles on around £70 of petrol, so that's 17-23 pence per mile.

Ok, I stand corrected, 7p per mile is still significantly cheaper than 17p per mile.

 

[hoppyscotty]

I charge form home on the standard rate, so no cheap tariff and it is cheaper than previous ICE cars by quite a bit. But the charges are rigged and can be changed at any point in time by politicians and they will change to extract sufficient tax from us no matter what cars we end up driving.

We try to do the 'right thing' and switched from petrol to diesel, but diesel soon became more expensive, so we were then forced into EV's and they will become more expensive in time, of that you can be quite certain.

No diesel car I've had ever achieved 50mpg....my 2.2 ltr Max managed about 37 mpg normally, could eek it upto about 42mpg on a long uninterrupted run. The 2 litre BMW X3 did about 46mpg no matter how you drove it. Didn't seem to be that sensitive. Then had a VW T5 van and that managed about 39mpg or so from memory, could never quite get that into the 40's. But both are larger heaver cars so to be expected I guess.

Not surprisingly I don't quite get the advertised range in my EV either...so the laboratory conditions they determine the advertised efficiencies seem to be hard to achieve in the real world wether you drive an ICE car or an EV.

 

[AlBrew]

I charge form home on the standard rate, so no cheap tariff and it is cheaper than previous ICE cars by quite a bit. But the charges are rigged and can be changed at any point in time by politicians and they will change to extract sufficient tax from us no matter what cars we end up driving.

We try to do the 'right thing' and switched from petrol to diesel, but diesel soon became more expensive, so we were then forced into EV's and they will become more expensive in time, of that you can be quite certain.

No diesel car I've had ever achieved 50mpg....my 2.2 ltr Max managed about 37 mpg normally, could eek it upto about 42mpg on a long uninterrupted run. The 2 litre BMW X3 did about 46mpg no matter how you drove it. Didn't seem to be that sensitive. Then had a VW T5 van and that managed about 39mpg or so from memory, could never quite get that into the 40's. But both are larger heaver cars so to be expected I guess.

Not surprisingly I don't quite get the advertised range in my EV either...so the laboratory conditions they determine the advertised efficiencies seem to be hard to achieve in the real world wether you drive an ICE car or an EV.

It's going to be much harder to increase the cost of or add tax to electricity that's used only in your car. It's technically possible through either the vehicles API or a dedicated monitored smart meter but the API's if they even exist for every car are all different and we have all seen how the roll out of home smart meters went. And other than making it illegal there's nothing stopping anyone at times from plugging their car into a 3 pin socket or charging from solar and not touching the grid.

I think it's far more likely that we'll get taxed on miles driven as it's easier to track and arguably the fairest.