Electric cars.

[Alastair70]

I know, however, we won'y know until when, when it's too late, like always.

You really couldn’t be more wrong on this.

 

[Agentgonzo]

Public chargers or not, I still maintain that charging over 40 million cars is a lot of electric, and we don't really have a prayer of charging that lot and keeping the lights on

Public fuel stations or not, I still maintain that filling 40 million cars is a lot of petrol, and we don't really have a prayer of distributing that amount of fuel and keeping the trains running.

 

[Alastair70]

Public fuel stations or not, I still maintain that filling 40 million cars is a lot of petrol, and we don't really have a prayer of distributing that amount of fuel and keeping the trains running.

We’ve only got a finite number of prayers available, but I still maintain keeping my performance EV on the road trumps all 3rd World problems.

In other news, ESB have confirmed that there’s no shortage of electrons on the island of Ireland. You lot on the UK mainland may not be so lucky.

 

[Rodcx500z]

so when we all have these lekky thingys, how do the not so well off put a fiver or tenner of juce in

 

[Rodcx500z]

While i at it, if a bev developes a fault on an all lane motorway does it just stop like a dizzy scooter or can it coast to a refuge area, i genuinly don't know the answer to this

 

[Alastair70]

so when we all have these lekky thingys, how do the not so well off put a fiver or tenner of juce in

Same way as they put the decomposing residue of millennium old forests in their ICE’s

While i at it, if a bev developes a fault on an all lane motorway does it just stop like a dizzy scooter or can it coast to a refuge area, i genuinly don't know the answer to this

No. They’re just like normal cars, just with a different power source. There’s no crazy magic involved.

 

[Rodcx500z]

Same way as they put the decomposing residue of millennium old forests in their ICE’s


No. They’re just like normal cars, just with a different power source. There’s no crazy magic involved.

So you can just stick a tenner in, how far will that go

 

[jof]

So you can just stick a tenner in, how far will that go

Well, when your tenners worth of electrons run out, you won't be able to lug the battery a mile to the nearest charging point will you.
So that's another £50-100 a year on breakdown recovery.

 

[Old Fart At Play]

So you can just stick a tenner in, how far will that go

If it could hold that much, my EV would go 588 miles on £10

 

[Alastair70]

Well, when your tenners worth of electrons run out, you won't be able to lug the battery a mile to the nearest charging point will you.
So that's another £50-100 a year on breakdown recovery.

Do you run out of petrol once a year?

 

[Chippy_Tea]

If i have done this right i don't see how people can say you can run a BEV as cheaply as an ICE without home charging £29 is roughly 4 gallon of juice my ICE car would easily do 200+ miles on that much petrol and i wouldn't be wasting 48 minutes waiting for it to charge..

https://www.zap-map.com/tools/public-charging-calculator

 

[Polcho]

I think the US and the UK are miles apart on this.

Elon Musk is in bed with Mr Trump, that makes electric cars in the the US a self-fulfilling prophecy that will happen quite quickly in real terms. Thre it is achievable.

Trump's Mantra of 'drill baby drill' coupled with Musk's ambition to make electric cars the go to is a match made in heaven.

Trump is not about to invest in clean technology when he doesn't believe there is a global warming issue, and when he is sitting on more oil than you can shake a stick at.

I'm not fussed either way, electric or petrol, but I think realistically, when we have a series of governments setting targets without any real hope of achiveing them, it's all a bit of a waste of time.

 

[Rodcx500z]

If we as a country ban ice in 2030 we will be up that famous creek without a paddle

 

[Chippy_Tea]

If we as a country ban ice in 2030 we will be up that famous creek without a paddle

There are 23 million ICE cars on our roads and only 1 million BEV if they banned the sale of ICE in 5 years there could be another 5 million so max 28 million ICE vehicles on our roads, banning new sales is not going to make any difference people who want a new BEV will buy one those who are determined not to go full electric will buy a used ICE or a new Hybrid and for them have the best of both worlds.

 

[Chippy_Tea]

 

[Alastair70]

If we as a country ban ice in 2030 we will be up that famous creek without a paddle

That’s not going to happen, the government has pushed targets back to 2035.
Also, I continue to maintain that we won’t.
If you’ve got some evidence to the contrary I’d love to see it, and I’ll change my position.

But that’s the curse of being a sceptic, you can’t just blindly keep on parroting things you like the sound of. You have to think critically, accept rational truths and own up to being wrong when the evidence says otherwise.

 

[Alastair70]

My Tesla was built in 2019 and cost me £52k in 2020. I’ve put 110k miles on it, subjected it to over 2000 battery charge cycles and I’ve been offered £12,500 as a trade in. So I’m going to infer that this video isn’t representative of the fate of your average EV.

 

[Chippy_Tea]

So I’m going to infer that this video isn’t representative of the fate of your average EV.

The problem is "your average" BEV is the BEV most of us are going to be able to afford.

 

[Rodcx500z]

The wording implies that only cars powered exclusively by a petrol and diesel engine (or ICEs – Internal Combustion Engines) will be banned in 2030, while hybrids will be allowed to be sold for another five years before an EV-only new car and van market kicks in.

 

[Chippy_Tea]

The wording implies that only cars powered exclusively by a petrol and diesel engine (or ICEs – Internal Combustion Engines) will be banned in 2030, while hybrids will be allowed to be sold for another five years before an EV-only new car and van market kicks in.

My next car will be a Hybrid as i don't have off street parking.