Electric cars.

[Larse]

These are figures for a modern diesel so as the guy says if you cannot charge from home you would be better off with a modern diesel.

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It's funny that these always discount the cost of servicing and repairs. The last few years of my diesel car ownership from a 1 year old car with low mileage, I've never got out of a service for less than €500. The last year I had it, it cost over a grand in servicing and repairs. Always with the main dealer until I discovered that they hadn't actually done work they should have. Like replacing the glow plugs which caused a DPF failure and an expensive clean.

Meanwhile I have another 18 months of free servicing on my EV

Won't be going back to diesel. Ever.

 

[old dog new tricks]

These are figures for a modern diesel so as the guy says if you cannot charge from home you would be better off with a modern diesel.

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Its a bit more complicated depends on mileage and type of use about town a diesel is not good where as an EV is VERY efficient all the low speed and regen opportunities makes a difference.

Ad blue needs to be considered a well

Depends won what your local charging options are I have a local cafe in an industrial estate has 50kw charger 40 per Kwh its almsost as chap as home charging and quick , rerun the figures at that value and its a different outcome.

Servicing for an EV is cheaper than ICE

Not saying the AA figures are wrong but everyone's circumstances and options will be different so need to work it out given your own needs and options.

 

[Chippy_Tea]

It's funny that these always discount the cost of servicing and repairs. The last few years of my diesel car ownership from a 1 year old car with low mileage, I've never got out of a service for less than €500. The last year I had it, it cost over a grand in servicing and repairs. Always with the main dealer until I discovered that they hadn't actually done work they should have. Like replacing the glow plugs which caused a DPF failure and an expensive clean.
Meanwhile I have another 18 months of free servicing on my EV
Won't be going back to diesel. Ever.

On the flip side i owned a Corsa 1.3 diesel for 6 years i ran it every day to work (good blast on dual carriageway) and never had any problem with the DPF or major breakdowns my servicing was around £200 in local garage.

There is no way you can run a BEV without home charging cheaper than a modern diesel if you think i and the guy in the video are wrong i would love to see the figures you have.

 

[old dog new tricks]

On the flip side i owned a Corsa 1.3 diesel for 6 years i ran it every day to work (good blast on dual carriageway) and never had any problem with the DPF or major breakdowns my servicing was around £200 in local garage.

There is no way you can run a BEV without home charging cheaper than a modern diesel if you think i and the guy in the video are wrong i would love to see the figures you have.

With out home charging I would agree the small 1.3 diesel would be the cheaper option.

depending on your area public charging may be available cheaper than you think Glasgow city rates 40p per Kwh,
Also see a small number of local authority run chargers offer off peak public charging at 27p per Kwh that starts to make it viable.

If the government is serious about this then enforce off peak pricing and remove VAT on public chargers and it becomes a more level playing field, but stillt o happen

 

[Chippy_Tea]

If the government is serious about this then enforce off peak pricing and remove VAT on public chargers and it becomes a more level playing field, but stillt o happen

They are going to have to do something about the price of charging as they are going to eventually force the residents of 9 million homes into EV ownership as ICE cars become rare or too expensive to run.

 

[Larse]

On the flip side i owned a Corsa 1.3 diesel for 6 years i ran it every day to work (good blast on dual carriageway) and never had any problem with the DPF or major breakdowns my servicing was around £200 in local garage.

There is no way you can run a BEV without home charging cheaper than a modern diesel if you think i and the guy in the video are wrong i would love to see the figures you have.

Well firstly I'm not speaking from a UK perspective. I've already stated that UK public charging rates are bonkers and an outlier in Europe. Secondly, the AA rates given are clearly an average across all rates which is also bonkers. Nobody is going to home charge on daytime rates for example. Or if so, a vanishingly small percentage.

But yes, at 49p/kWh, a car that will do 22kWh/100 miles will cost about 10.8p a mile. That's a Tesla Model 3 btw. Slightly cheaper than the micro-diesel you quoted. Cheaper than all the rest. And miniscule servicing costs.

They are going to have to do something about the price of charging as they are going to eventually force the residents of 9 million homes into EV ownership as ICE cars become rare or too expensive to run.

Again with the 9 million homes. They should not be the focus, it's the 20 million that can accommodate an EV but currently aren't that should be the primary focus.

Obviously agree on public charging rates.

 

[Chippy_Tea]

it's the 20 million that can accommodate an EV but currently aren't that should be the primary focus.

They screwed up by removing the grant people with a old but reliable ICE car are not going to stump up tens of thousands of pounds to move to EV just for the sake of it and especially if they make long journeys often.

The average cost to buy an electric car in the UK is around £46,000, with EV prices ranging from £14,995 (Dacia Spring Electric) up to £333,000 (Rolls-Royce Spectre), or even more. 3 Sept 2024

The grant scheme, which first started in 2011, was designed to make buying new electric vehicles more affordable by providing a discount.
The amount that drivers could claim was reduced from £2,500 to £1,500 in December. Electric cars priced under £32,000 were eligible.
The scheme has been used to buy nearly 500,000 cars over the past decade.