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You haven't offended me at all, I'm just disagreeing with you. I share a house with a staunch Tory voter, I can handle the crack. He's a very good mate, we cycle together a lot.Ok, fair enough. I have to admit that, being more Nozick than left or right, I find it incredibly easy to take the Micky out of our politicians. You have to understand, I'm pulling your leg somewhat.
Labour do come across as arrogant, Starmer especially so, and don't seem to focus at all on the issues that many of the electorate seem to care about. I find it difficult to take a party seriously that has the likes of Zarah Sultana and Nadia Whittome spouting their sixth form level drivel at everybody.
Perhaps things might improve if they listened to people like Paul Emmery?
Anyhows, I appear to have offended you, so I owe you an apology for that.
If Labour come across as arrogant that is a problem. It's not how I see it. I see the Tories as more arrogant tbh. historically and currently. Starmer doesn't seem arrogant at all to me, he actually seems very humble, just a tad nervous. He faces a huge task and has all sorts of problems within his own party - as Boris does in his. I think we are in a post Brexit bubble in which people's perceptions are being clouded by 5 years of argument and indignation, and it will take time for people to re-adjust and see things more clearly again. Labour has some big issues to sort out and it needs to put forward an actual clear view of what it would do etc, but we are a long way from an election. And Boris is paddling away under the surface like a duck stuck in white water at the minute, helped by the English local election results obviously but there are cracks everywhere nonetheless and they will widen as time goes by. Labour needs to address the fact that without a Blair they don't win nationally. I don't know what the answer to that is, but I was presented with 4 candidates oin Thursday and I could have voted for three, and picked the one most likely to beat the Tory. The progressive vote is too split. Labour polls similar numbers of votes to the tories in general elections, the country isn't as one party as people are making out, perhaps.