E10 fuel.

[Chippy_Tea]

Interestingly, it appears that though my car will be fine, my lawnmower will not. E10 is not recommended for lawnmowers because it is usually stored for a number of months during the winter. This means that I’ll have to fill up my little container with about £1.50 worth of unleaded, which will go down a storm at the kiosk.

Stick some V-Power in it you will be done in no time.

 

[VW911]

I've always used the "Premium" fuels in my vehicles (V Power etc.), and it does pay off in the long run.
I know many people who drive miles and miles to get the cheapest supermarket fuels, only to find that they face costly garage bills a little way down the road due to the fuel being poorly stored.
I took almost half a litre of water out of a friends bike tank (never ridden in the wet, always stored inside.)
I asked him where he fueled up - Yep. Tesco...

 

[Gunge]

Crappy fuels, crappy electric cars.... anyone would think they're trying to get us offf the road.

 

[VW911]

Bugger knows how my 44 year old 911 engine will cope with it!

 

[Gunge]

About six months ago I bought a 2.0 tdci Mondeo. A week later the bloody dpf light came on. I bought some stuff that promised miracles, and it worked! Well, the light went off after about 50 miles, never to be seen again except for the usual idiot lights before starting the motor. Previous owner must have used cheapo diesel which goes to show that all fuels are not the same.

 

[Chippy_Tea]

Bugger knows how my 44 year old 911 engine will cope with it!

I wouldnt use it, find the cheapest E5 (super unleaded) you can find.

This site is brilliant and they also have an app -

PetrolPrices.com - Compare UK Petrol and Diesel Fuel Prices For Free

 

[VW911]

Thanks. Already found a local garage that will continue to stock E5.
I have to use a lead replacement additive anyway, so shouldn't be a problem...

 

[An Ankoù]

Thanks. Already found a local garage that will continue to stock E5.
I have to use a lead replacement additive anyway, so shouldn't be a problem...

Isn't all 98 RON only 5% ethanol, and will continue to be so in perpetuity? What pissiz me off about all this is that my 20+ year old Honda Civic runs beautifully on 10%, But my tractor mower, which is only three years old, can only handle 5%.

 

[Chippy_Tea]

Isn't all 98 RON only 5% ethanol,

I think all "premium" unleaded is E5.

 

[starseeker]

Lets also not forget that E10 petrol ,gives you less power ,and less mpg so you have to burn more of it ,ethanol is derived mainly from corn ,which needs fertiliser etc ,so is E10 any better for the planet ,or is it better for the governments in tax takes ?

 

[An Ankoù]

Lets also not forget that E10 petrol ,gives you less power ,and less mpg so you have to burn more of it ,ethanol is derived mainly from corn ,which needs fertiliser etc ,so is E10 any better for the planet ,or is it better for the governments in tax takes ?

It's a good question and one which I frequently ask myself, being surrounded by fields of the stuff. At least the fields are fertilised with cow dung around here. I suppose the advantage is that the CO2 produced from burning bio-ethanol is CO2 that's been taken out of the atmosphere rather than from fossil fuels so there's no overall addition of CO2 . Unless someone, knowing better, tells us otherwise.

 

[Chippy_Tea]

The Shell garage in town now has E5 & E10 stickers on the pumps and below the word "Regular" on the standard unleaded sign (in the picture below) it says -

i can imagine many hundreds of customers who fill up every day and were blissfully unaware this was happening were in a bit of a panic this morning when they saw the pump labels had changed.

 

[Sandimas]

i can imagine many hundreds of customers who fill up every day and were blissfully unaware this was happening were in a bit of a panic this morning when they saw the pump labels had changed.

Yes, that was me.

I hadn't really paid much attention until I saw it on the news last night, filled my 2009 Triumph motorcycle up this morning then noticed the dreaded E10 sticker on the pump. It's been coughing and spluttering like a good 'un since.

 

[Chippy_Tea]

Yes, that was me.

I hadn't really paid much attention until I saw it on the news last night, filled my 2009 Triumph motorcycle up this morning then noticed the dreaded E10 sticker on the pump. It's been coughing and spluttering like a good 'un since.

To be honest i would empty the E10 out and stick E5 in it you don't know what harm it could do if its in there for awhile.

 

[moto748]

As I suspected, car yes, bike no. But I always run the bike on Super Unleaded anyway (even though many argue it's a waste of money).. When I can get it, that is.

 

[Ade McDade]

Is this another government initiative to promote diesel cars?

 

[Chippy_Tea]

I would say no they have been very negative about diesel cars for a while I being a bit cynical wonder if its to get older cars off the road sooner, they won't guarantee cars made before 2011 will not be damaged so what did manufacturers do to cars in 2011 that makes them all able to safely use it?

 

[Gunge]

Seems odd Chippy, that car makers all started using ethanol-resistant rubber seals etc at exactly the same time? Meanwhile, went I went to put some juice in the FJ yesterday, I had to pootle round the forecourt to find the one and only pump ( out of 12 ) to locate the one still labelled 'E5'. Good job the place was quiet.

 

[Chippy_Tea]

I had to pootle round the forecourt to find the one and only pump ( out of 12 ) to locate the one still labelled 'E5'. Good job the place was quiet.

Its all gone here now the only E5 left is the premium unleaded, i am close to the end of my first tank of Shell V-Power (E5) and i am sure i am getting more to the gallon and the engine seems more responsive, i know this may be all in my head but i am now happy to carry on paying the extra for the piece of mind this E10 stuff won't kill my old motor.

 

[Chippy_Tea]

Some info for those wondering what this all this is about -



What’s the best petrol for my car?
Some cars run optimally on standard premium unleaded, while others run more efficiently on higher octane fuels like super unleaded so check your manual.
As a general rule, you can use a higher-octane fuel than is recommended for your car (although it might well have no discernible advantages) however using a lower-octane fuel than recommended could cause engine damage.


Unleaded (95 octane)
Standard petrol sold all over Europe, suitable for almost all petrol engines.

Petrol Super Unleaded (97/98 octane)
Highest octane petrol commonly available in the UK. Unless you have a high performance car, most engines are not able to take advantage of the higher octane rating.
High Octane, burns hotter, which means it can burn more efficiently in all unleaded engines or give more performance to those tuned to receive high octane fuel.
The fuel also contains detergents to clean out engine deposits and performance enhancers...so it does something for all petrol engine types.

Petrol Premium Fuels
Shell V-Power unleaded, BP Ultimate. Manufacturers claim that a higher octane rating offers additional benefits (improved lubrication, higher performance). The Shell V-Power has a 99 octane however, these fuels will only benefit some cars.
The fuel also contains detergents to clean out engine deposits and performance enhancers...so it does something for all petrol engine types.