Dry hopping query

[Robin54]

I have to dry hop an IPA soon but Im wondering whether instead of dry hopping, putting the hops through a coffee press (cafetiere) and then tipping this into my pressure barrel. Ive not tried this before so wonder if its viable. Anyone tried this??

 

[wfr42]

Yep someone recommended it as a way to do a hop tea and for my last brew I added the hop debris too - more of a hop soup...I think for a true hop tea you're meant to use more water (I think at no more than 80°c) than I did.

I really like the resultant brew @dan125 had a bottle of it last week.

 

[Robin54]

Yep someone recommended it as a way to do a hop tea and for my last brew I added the hop debris too - more of a hop soup...I think for a true hop tea you're meant to use more water (I think at no more than 80°c) than I did.

I really like the resultant brew @dan125 had a bottle of it last week.

The reason I want to try this is so i don't have all the resultant debris. I reckon 65 degrees would be fine. I guess I could do the press twice - what do you think?

 

[dad_of_jon]

yes you could split the hops in half and do 2 lots

 

[Tanzanite]

Hi theres lots of ideas on this, some people leaving the hops 2-3 weeks some 24 hrs , so it depends on what your brewing as to how long you leave the brew on the hops , i prefer 5 days for IPA four for bitters and between 3-4 days for lagers, in theory a hop tea is not dry hopping , your using heat to extract the hop flavors and taste so it going to be different than a dry hop.

 

[dan125]

Yep someone recommended it as a way to do a hop tea and for my last brew I added the hop debris too - more of a hop soup...I think for a true hop tea you're meant to use more water (I think at no more than 80°c) than I did.

I really like the resultant brew @dan125 had a bottle of it last week.

It was a cracking pint :thumb:

 

[Robin54]

yes you could split the hops in half and do 2 lots

Misunderstanding here. Press the lot once and then 20 minutes repeat

 

[Razor]

Misunderstanding here. Press the lot once and then 20 minutes repeat

If I'm understanding you correctly. Making a hop tea twice with the same hops, would I believe, make the second batch pretty watery as I think most of the flavour/aroma will be extracted in the first tea.


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[wfr42]

First time I used a cafetiere I rinsed the hops three times to add to my white ipa tweak, no idea - should do more reading round about it.

 

[Robin54]

First time I used a cafetiere I rinsed the hops three times to add to my white ipa tweak, no idea - should do more reading round about it.

and what were your thoughts on the process??

 

[Robin54]

If I'm understanding you correctly. Making a hop tea twice with the same hops, would I believe, make the second batch pretty watery as I think most of the flavour/aroma will be extracted in the first tea.


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yep...maybe,,,I don't know.. I'm looking for answers from those who have used the process MyCul...help me out here...its can of worms

 

[Mjh]

Would steeping hops and the chucking the lot in the fv. serve the purpose of hop tea and dry hop in one go, or are the hops pretty much spent after steeping?

 

[geetee]

yep...maybe,,,I don't know.. I'm looking for answers from those who have used the process MyCul...help me out here...its can of worms

The problem here is there are no answers only different ways of doing things. Anyone else who has done this probably didn't do a comparison so maybe it "worked" in producing good beer but compared to what.

Trust yourself with this and maybe you will repeat it often and maybe not, it's down to what YOU believe.

 

[braziliain]

I asked a similar question recently about making up a hop tea instead of dry hopping. Was looking for volumes of water to use, temperatures and times etc.

In the end I just dry hopped the brew! :lol:

 

[terrym]

I asked a similar question recently about making up a hop tea instead of dry hopping. Was looking for volumes of water to use, temperatures and times etc.

In the end I just dry hopped the brew! :lol:

Similar to me!
I tried to make a hop tea for a recent brew with 55g Cascade pellets and 100ml water and ended up with a slightly moist clump of hops, i.e. no liquid at all. So I ended up chucking everything into the FV effectively dry hopping my brew.
If I did it again I would probably go for at least 500ml water for 50g or so of pellets, but would then include that in the original wort volume so would initially brew short to allow for the hop tea liquid volume.

 

[Robin54]

Similar to me!
I tried to make a hop tea for a recent brew with 55g Cascade pellets and 100ml water and ended up with a slightly moist clump of hops, i.e. no liquid at all. So I ended up chucking everything into the FV effectively dry hopping my brew.
If I did it again I would probably go for at least 500ml water for 50g or so of pellets, but would then include that in the original wort volume so would initially brew short to allow for the hop tea liquid volume.

Terry...I was going to look for a LARGE cafetiere in the local charity shops and didn't get around to it so in the end just bagged the hops up with some spoons and chucked em in. Another interesting point tho Terry, one of my beers for dry hopping was an exquisite IPA, which I made in 2 batches for a total of 20 litres so is a labour of love to say the least. When I looked at the FV I realised the trub was way above the tap!!! so had to decant into a secondary FV which I luckily had knocking around, and dry hop into this. I don't like, as a rule, transferring things around from one vessel to another, since its just another opportunity for an infection to occur. However Ive got a couple of 10 L batches on the go which need a dry hop as well so will probably try the coffee press method on these since the hop addition is quite modest. All the best.:thumb:

 

[Robin54]

The problem here is there are no answers only different ways of doing things. Anyone else who has done this probably didn't do a comparison so maybe it "worked" in producing good beer but compared to what.

Trust yourself with this and maybe you will repeat it often and maybe not, it's down to what YOU believe.

I believe you are right. Ive got a Chinook smash on the go, which I generally make at least once a month, so will give it the coffee press treatment and let you know how it goes. Its only way of finding out.

 

[terrym]

just bagged the hops up with some spoons and chucked em in.

I don't bother with bags any more for dry hopping, I am a convert to just chucking em in but I use a small nylon mesh sock, ex Festival kit, over the end of the siphon tube which is very effective at filtering out the hop bits from the beer going forward, and I use pellets not whole flowers.
I found that using a muslin bag soaked up some beer which I didn't want and it was a site for yeast to settle on and as the beer was drawn off the yeast became resuspended and got carried foward. I don't get that now.

 

[chub1]

I have made hop teas in a caffetiere ,not sure if there was any great benefit.I now just dry hop if the brew calls for it.

 

[Robin54]

I don't bother with bags any more for dry hopping, I am a convert to just chucking em in but I use a small nylon mesh sock, ex Festival kit, over the end of the siphon tube which is very effective at filtering out the hop bits from the beer going forward, and I use pellets not whole flowers.
I found that using a muslin bag soaked up some beer which I didn't want and it was a site for yeast to settle on and as the beer was drawn off the yeast became resuspended and got carried foward. I don't get that now.

Lots of way to skin a cat. Ive used a fine nylon sock (Festival kit) to filter my beer for ages and when bottled, its crystal clear in 2 days. Ive put it over a tap and a syphon and works wonderfully. One of the dry hops Ive just used can only be had in leaf form (Pacific Jade) which is why i went for the bag and weight trick. At the end of the day its horses for courses and we do that which works best for us. I have to say that all my beers are crystal clear and I like that.