DP recipes

[MEB]

I've decided i'm going to brew a whole load of DP recipes. Other beers are bland and tasteless in comparison IMO. I like the 3hr mash and half hour mash out. I also love the beautiful malt flavours and the hop balance they produce. The only drawback is the maturation periods. So i'll have to mix up 3 month maturation with some that are years. I'll brew some of my house beers in between to keep me going.

I love historic beers. They rock. Perhaps if i matured my recipes for as long they would have similar flavour profiles? :hmm: mmm

 

[Wez]

I like this post :)

MEB just kinda 'thinking out loud'

:thumb: :thumb:

I'll try a DP recipe next year ... sooo much to brew, so little time

 

[MEB]

I had my very last bottle of DP's 1837 IPA on saturday night. Without doubt the finest beer i've ever tasted. It had mellowed loads since i last supped a bottle at 4 month's. It was SO drinkable, crystal clear and the over-riding(?) sweetness and massive hoppiness had balanced themselves out perfectly to provide a beautifully balanced yet strong IPA. It was a pleasure to drink and in no way tasted like a 9% ale. Untill i'd finished it and my legs went a tad wobbly.

I'm so taken with this that i'm going to brew another batch as the first beer i brew with my new kettle. :thumb:

If you haven't done a DP recipe then you should really give one a go. They are absolutely fantastic beers. So much so that my 'normal' beers seem bland in comparison.

Thanks DP, i owe you loads for letting the world of craftbrewing experience these amazing beers. If that's what beers were like back in the day then we are missing out massively now with our one month maturation periods and such. :hmm:

 

[Vossy1]

I totally agree MEB :thumb:
I would also say that the beers don't have to be high ABV to get the same taste.
There is a concieved wisdom that says your OG must be 1:1 with your IBU, or less, otherwise your beers will be out of balance....what utter tosh :nono:

You can make a 1.040 beer with 80 IBU's and once the bitterness has mellowed, you will be left with a depth of flavour that is simply not achievable by any other means.

I'm going to be embarking on a DP binge making soon....shame I don't like milds, seems a waste not to party gyle

 

[BrewStew]

I wouldn't say it's utter tosh V... by the time a DP recipe has matured in the keg, it's lost bitterness units and probably gone back under the IBU/SG ratio, much like how people complain they lose hop aroma in the keg.

i bet if you were to keg and bottle the same DP recipe at the same time, the bottles would still be undrinkable when the kegs matured

 

[Vossy1]

I wouldn't say it's utter tosh V... by the time a DP recipe has matured in the keg, it's lost bitterness units and probably gone back under the IBU/SG ratio, much like how people complain they lose hop aroma in the keg

I would because the statement stops people from looking further into the subject as they are instantly put off.
Some of my recipes on another forum were slated for just that reason

 

[BrewStew]

spose when you put it that way then yeah

 

[Jonnyv]

I bottled the remainder of my DP Windsor Ale last night from the keg. Must say the kegged version is a lot smoother than the bottles I filled from the FV. Definitely recommend maturing in the keg if you've got the space for DP recipes.

 

[MEB]

I bottle ALL my DP recipe's. I wouldn't even consider for a nano second kegging them.

Because if it was in a keg i'd have drank it before it matured properly. Whereas with bottles i will always save at least one for the full maturation period. And i much prefer the taste that i get from my bottled beers compared to the keg. They are different and i prefer the bottled. The ONLY and i mean ONLY reason i keg beers is because of the hassle with sterilising and filling loads and loads of bottles.

 

[Oblivious]

Because if it was in a keg i'd have drank it before it matured properly. Whereas with bottles i will always save at least one for the full maturation period. And i much prefer the taste that i get from my bottled beers compared to the keg. They are different and i prefer the bottled. The ONLY and i mean ONLY reason i keg beers is because of the hassle with sterilising and filling loads and loads of bottles.

You could try keg conditioning them

 

[monk]

Do the DP IPAs include late hops? Just curious because I saw one recipe that only seemed to have a 90 minute addition (a HUGE 90 minute addition...). I was under the impression that the original IPAs had a grip of hops added at the end of boil. Maybe that's a misconception.

I once made an IPA that was 1065 and had hop additions every 5 minutes for the last 30 (totalling ~120g). The flavor aroma changed greatly over 6 months...I can only imagine what one of these DP monsters tastes like!

 

[Aleman]

Do the DP IPAs include late hops?

No they do not, What you have to remember about the DP recipes is that these are taken from the actual brewing ledgers (Sort of like our brewing notebooks) of the brewery in question. So historical 'English' IPA's couldn't have had a massive hop nose . . . and certainly were not meant to be drunk young . . . Unlike American IPA's which are drunk young and could probably do with an extended aging anyway . . . but then that massive hop nose would be lost.

I would actually like to bet that when the beer arrived in India and was vented a good handful of hops would have been added . . .that of course would never have been recorded in the Ledgers

 

[Jonnyv]

I would actually like to bet that when the beer arrived in India and was vented a good handful of hops would have been added . . .that of course would never have been recorded in the Ledgers

An interesting insight :thumb:

 

[monk]

That makes sense. So when they speak of the "preservative character of hops", they are referring mostly to that which is boiled out of them during bittering. That makes sense too, actually. I read something a while back, probably misinformed, that spoke of lots of hops being thrown in the barrels before they were shipped to India. I was always skeptical of this, because I've dry-hopped beers for too long and they tasted like a mouthful of my lawn. Thanks for the insights.

 

[MEB]

I'm not sure they would have hopped them when they got to India-the officers often watered down what was given to the troops and watered down IPA with a handfull of hops in would be a bit yuk i reckon. But then the officers may well have thrown in a handfull of hops for their own consumption. I know i would have if i could. Not sure i'd want to drink warm 9% IPA in india though, how do you reckon they chilled the barrels? There must have been a way. :hmm:

Either way DP's recipe's are great to brew-i get a sense of nostalgia and pride. I get a sense of vertigo when drinking them. Overall they are my favourite beers. I like strong Ales and these fit the bill perfectly. :

 

[Aleman]

Not sure i'd want to drink warm 9% IPA in india though, how do you reckon they chilled the barrels? There must have been a way. :hmm:

Saltpetre! When you add it to water, its an endothermic reaction (Takes heat in from outside) and it is quite easy to cause the water to freeze . . . . It is mentioned in a letter to Allsop in 1823

 

[monk]

Not sure i'd want to drink warm 9% IPA in india though, how do you reckon they chilled the barrels? There must have been a way. :hmm:

Saltpetre! When you add it to water, its an endothermic reaction (Takes heat in from outside) and it is quite easy to cause the water to freeze . . . . It is mentioned in a letter to Allsop in 1823

It also causes temporary impotence. I've heard it was given to sailors so that on leave in a port they wouldn't be able to, you know, stand at attention.

Edit: okay...just had a search on the web and apparently the impotence thing is a sham. Don't ever listen to me.

 

[Wez]

So they would have been much better off having a stiff drink, sticking to the hard stuff :thumb:

(sorry, i'll get my coat)

:grin:

 

[MEB]

I'd imagine they'd be fairly impotent after necking a few jars of 9% IPA anyway. I know i'm incapable after a few. :lol:

 

[Wez]

monk, I hope you never had to use that as an excuse :?

I'm wanting to brew a big beer next year around 9% I think I'll call it "floppy nob"