Do you return your own glass?

[morethanworts]

As for McDonald's I always remove the rubbish, it's only courteous because as soon as you get up another family sit down and why should they move my waste... It pisses me off when I see it.. Grrrrr

:lol:

It's the restaurant's job to clear the table IMHO. It's not a ~@**in' soup kitchen or work canteen FFS! Then they could get rid of the smelly bins around the place. If the rubbish is left, complain to the staff for not clearing it. I'm not going to get a cloth/spray and wipe it, so it's going to need attention anyway before the next diner.

I'm pretty courteous, but clearing my own table when I've paid for the food... Grrrr...

Rant over. Sorry BB. If I see you coming I'll clear it just for you. :thumb:

 

[TRXnMe]

Sometimes...

It depends on how busy the place is and whether they have a glass collector working the bar area, I used to do the glass collecting for a local when I was 15 / 16 and it was good money at that age, plus a free portion of pie and peas at the end of the night, plus drunk girls, I was in heaven

If it's quiet and there isn't a glass collector I'll take them back, if it's busy and we're running out of table space because the pub isn't employing the current yoof version of me I'll take a batch back when it's my round. Other than that, it depends on my mood and how good the rest of the service was.

 

[dave0w]

Definitely yes. I does no harm to walk back with a glass. But I am afraid the ' that's what the staff are paid for' attitude is yet another example of how bad this country has got. Just my opinion.

What dose a glass collector do if we all take them back, he go's to the job center

you tuck his JOB!

Surely by the fact that you are on a home brew forum and looking at your signature

On the brew.
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You probably don't go in pubs as much as perhaps you once did. So you too and every other person actively brewing and not going into a pub is also making the pot washer redundant..............................................

and the bar man, bar manager, dreyman, head brewer, the brewers dog................................

Do I need to go on.....................

The reason for my comment was like a lot of people on here I have worked in bars myself and there is nothing worse than having to tidy up after every bugger. It is a sad fact that people have this attitude to rely on someone else and not make an effort themselves or help someone out a little.

tushay :thumb:

But my first post did say i do take glass back when in pubs. i was just been a funny bugger

 

[RobWalker]

Yeah, part habit I guess, also just part respectful. What you don't want to do is sit on a booth table, with only one side of access to glass collectors, and put the glasses on the far side so they can't be easily reached, then completely ******* ignore them when they ask for the glasses. it's your fault, and you're a bad person!

we sometimes get people returning the glasses and giving us a confused look when beer is poured into a fresh glass. I guess that's from cider pubs in the west country where everybody owns their own glass :lol:

 

[Will12283]

I take my glasses back unless I get poor service or it's busy.

It's something I have always done, I'm going to the bar anyway so why go empty handed.

 

[OnlyFerment]

I always return my glass when getting a replacement pint. I generally leave the table as is when leaving as there are usually plates that need clearing anyway (I'm usually with partner and daughter and eating if I'm in a pub).

In my single days at my regular we always kept the same glass all night and generally the regulars ended up taking other glasses to the bar too. They were a damn good landlord & lady who treat the regulars well and were treat well in return.

Dave

 

[dennisking]

Yes because my Mum taught me good manners, the down side is sometimes in a pub you can end up pissed so to anyone I have been with in a pub and I haven't done it, I apologise.

 

[joe1002]

Yes because my Mum taught me good manners, the down side is sometimes in a pub you can end up pissed so to anyone I have been with in a pub and I haven't done it, I apologise.

:lol:

 

[Vossy1]

Another yes here, just good manners

 

[Maysie]

In a 'proper' pub where the staff are friendly I will always clear my empty glass/glasses from the table whenever I get another round or head home. I just think it helps out the bar staff and makes the table nicer for the next punter.

In a poorly run pub, by which I suppose I mean one with unhelpful/unfriendly staff, I often don't bother though as they don't deserve the courtesy.

 

[RokDok]

Always, and I've taught my (teenage) kids to as well.

This includes the local Wetherspoons, I think it's courteous and respectful.

RD

 

[chinacat]

if im going up to bar for another drink then yes take glass with me if its my last drink and im leaving the pub i will leave glass on table

 

[guitardan]

Would you leave the glasses or bottles on yer own table when you were finished? If not, why would you leave them in someone elses house on the table? Sorry, just shows lack of respect, don't give it, don't deserve it

Dan

 

[Jeltz]

Would you leave the glasses or bottles on yer own table when you were finished? If not, why would you leave them in someone elses house on the table? Sorry, just shows lack of respect, don't give it, don't deserve it

Dan

I don't charge people for the beer they drink in my house :P

 

[PD]

It is called good manners.....Something that seems sadly lacking these days.

 

[PaulCa]

In a quiet pub I would take my glass back when getting a new drink.

I see two arguments for the broader question of "Should you help the staff of an establishment with their job by doing it yourself". On one hand there is the "common courtesy" argument that tells us we should help each other out as it takes very little of your time to make someone else's go easier. Very socialist, or rather communist.... in that it asks for people to be community driven.

This is all very well, but the counter argument is equally valid and that is, "We live in a capitalist world, they are being paid to do a service, if we do it for ourselves they will loose their jobs.", not to mention, "I WANT them to clear up after me, that's WHY I'm willing to pay the premium to drink the bar/eat in the restaurant, I can lift and wash my own glasses at home a lot cheaper"

Of course it's also valid to mention that there is a slim chance that the establishment may sack some staff if the punters all start helping out, which might make the beer/food price come down! Great! People flock in for cheap booze, trash the place and the bar has to employ people to clean it up. Back to square one. Like communism it only take a few bad apples to upset the whole cart load.

Consider lowering service quality/quantity to lower price.... you end up with RyanAir. Imagine RyanAles a pub where to have your empties returned or your table wiped you would have to tip the barman/maid an extra £5 with your first pint, but the drink cheaper than witherspoons. Two toilets, one cleaned, £1 to enter, the other "clean it yourself if you want to", free. At the bar you are given your glass at the start of the night and if you want it washed it's £1, if you loose or break it, it's £5 for a new one.

 

[Tim_Crowhurst]

Somehow I doubt a pub called "RyanAles" would serve good quality ale. Recycled, grain alcohol infused urine is more likely.

Also, at a time when there are millions more unemployed than available jobs (I believe the current ratio is around 4-5 million to 250K, or about 16-20:1) shouldn't something - anything - that increases employment, even if only slightly, be considered a good thing?

/angelsadvocate

 

[Michaeldonk]

I always return my glass, and others if they are done (or I want to move on I know most of the managers around town being in the trade and I will go further than just taking my glasses back, I will clear other tables, sweep up broken glass. Throw the odd trouble causer out etc etc. Although these people are not my "friends" we know each other and its a mutual respect thing, publicans help each other out. they would do the same if they came in my place.

I can see both sides of the story though. Glass collectors are employed to not only collect the glasses but wash them, put them away, restock fridges etc etc, theres always something they can be doing and by a few people taking their own empties back it speeds everything up. for the customer as well as the staff. Theres nothing worse than being served a pint in a warm glass cos the glass collector is rushed of their feet trying to clean up out front, wash them all, leave them to cool and put them on the glass shelves.

It's each to their own but I doubt taking your empties back to the bar will put someone out of a job. They will just find something else to do.

 

[PaulCa]

It's each to their own but I doubt taking your empties back to the bar will put someone out of a job. They will just find something else to do.

In the context of a small pub where the choice is "Do they have a glass collector or not", then 25% of the punters taking their glasses back probably won't cost the glass collector their job, as you say there are other things to do. Even if everyone took their glasses back they will still need someone to do the odd jobs. They might get paid less, or minimum wage with less hours.

When you look at larger companies such as KFC or Asda then self service tills and people clearing their own tables WILL on a national scale cost 100s of jobs. Lets face it, Asda did NOT put self service tills in to make things easier for their staff. They allow their customers to think that and even to think that the cost savings would be passed on in prices, but really it just makes their pretty profit graphs go up faster for shareholders. A companies main cost 99 times out of 100 is labor. Less work for staff == Less staff == more profit, make not doubt.

 

[Tim_Crowhurst]

When you look at larger companies such as KFC or Asda then self service tills and people clearing their own tables WILL on a national scale cost 100s of jobs. Lets face it, Asda did NOT put self service tills in to make things easier for their staff.

This is one of the reasons I almost never use self-service tills.

The other is that I've not yet found a self-service till where the weigh-plate won't complain about my ruck-sack and pannier bags. They don't like bags that weigh much more than a heavy-duty carrier bag and, if I've got more than half a dozen items, that means it takes longer to get through a self-service till than a conventional one because every single bl**dy item gets flagged up by the machine.