Dilly Dilly!!

[Cwrw666]

I'm currently drinking the last few bottles of 1864 Lovibond XB pale ale I made out of the Ron Pattinson book. Wasn't expecting much as it's just pale malt with 3 goldings additions at 90, 60 and 30 minutes. But in fact it's really nice with quite a lot of hop aroma much to my surprise. If something so simple can be so nice I wonder what is the point of all those expensive speciality malts and extorsionate American hops...

 

[GerritT]

I'm currently drinking the last few bottles of 1864 Lovibond XB pale ale I made out of the Ron Pattinson book. Wasn't expecting much as it's just pale malt with 3 goldings additions at 90, 60 and 30 minutes. But in fact it's really nice with quite a lot of hop aroma much to my surprise. If something so simple can be so nice I wonder what is the point of all those expensive speciality malts and extorsionate American hops...

IBU 83? That's quite a lot for such an ale, is it not too bitter?

 

[Sadfield]

I'm currently drinking the last few bottles of 1864 Lovibond XB pale ale I made out of the Ron Pattinson book. Wasn't expecting much as it's just pale malt with 3 goldings additions at 90, 60 and 30 minutes. But in fact it's really nice with quite a lot of hop aroma much to my surprise. If something so simple can be so nice I wonder what is the point of all those expensive speciality malts and extorsionate American hops...

I've had that epiphany. That's the beauty of homebrewing though isn't it? Always something to learn, yet we have the freedom to approach things both ways. The interesting thing about those old recipes, is they challenged many assertions made with modern techniques. 1) That it doesn't matter what bittering hop we use, that they give bitterness and flavour, and 2) mid-boil additions are a waste of hops. I now don't use any old hop for bittering or use just late additions in recipes, even in American IPAs.

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[marshbrewer]

I'm currently drinking the last few bottles of 1864 Lovibond XB pale ale I made out of the Ron Pattinson book. Wasn't expecting much as it's just pale malt with 3 goldings additions at 90, 60 and 30 minutes. But in fact it's really nice with quite a lot of hop aroma much to my surprise. If something so simple can be so nice I wonder what is the point of all those expensive speciality malts and extorsionate American hops...

Do you mind me asking which pale malt you used for this one? It's on my to do list, and always wonder with these historic recipes which modern pale malt would work best.

 

[Cwrw666]

Do you mind me asking which pale malt you used for this one? It's on my to do list, and always wonder with these historic recipes which modern pale malt would work best

Oh I just used what I had which I think is maris otter. Don't actually know as to get it in my cupboard I split the sack into freezer bags with 8Lb in each. I think Pattinson says that's not accurate historically as it's kilned at too high a temperature. Wouldn't surprise me as the beer was not as pale as I expected. So probably sweeter than it should be too. Very nice though.

IBU 83? That's quite a lot for such an ale, is it not too bitter?

No, it's not too bitter which makes me wonder about his IBU figures. In fact it's less bitter than the Greg Hughes IPA I regularly make which is 60 IBU.

 

[GerritT]

Oh I just used what I had which I think is maris otter. Don't actually know as to get it in my cupboard I split the sack into freezer bags with 8Lb in each. I think Pattinson says that's not accurate historically as it's kilned at too high a temperature. Wouldn't surprise me as the beer was not as pale as I expected. So probably sweeter than it should be too. Very nice though.



No, it's not too bitter which makes me wonder about his IBU figures. In fact it's less bitter than the Greg Hughes IPA I regularly make which is 60 IBU.

You know by any chance how large the batches are in Vintage Beers? 19 or 23?

 

[Cwrw666]

It's 23. Says somewhere obscure. I did a smaller brew and scaled the recipe down. Hit the OG almost spot on, and the FG. I used Gervin yeast which apparently is a reasonable substitute.

 

[BeerCat]

But have you ever tried Hop House 13? It's 'meh' at best. All those different hops dont do anything for it. To get some of those micro brewery beer drinkers turning to them, would each into their profit margins too. Good beer cost money to make

Its bloody awful. They should of called it pop house!

 

[Lawrence22]

Its bloody awful. They should of called it pop house!

I actually don't mind it on draught, but for some reason the bottled version is rubbish.

 

[Dutto]

As someone said earlier, it's the Muscles from Brussels, Van Damage. Sad how he's gone from world champion kickboxer to this.

Hey!! Leave us old men alone!:hat:

We may not be as good as we once were, but we're as good once as we ever were! :thumb:

 

[Dutto]

......... A lot of the old boys in there drink it

That goes for you as well.